Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Apple agrees to settle potential class action suit by U.S. developers

axios.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

101–110 of 259 posts

Re: Apple agrees to settle potential class action suit by U.S. developers

#101

Post by dhosek »

jrockway wrote: post #72
banana_giraffe wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll just leave this here for you: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7231#section-5.5.2

That's a good one. Since legacy code is less likely to change than the English language, I just call it a "referer" in writing unrelated to HTTP. That way, I'm never confused. (Everyone else? Good luck.)

I used to do technical writing and for some software that I wrote the manual and help system for, one of the menu items was misspelled. I spelled the word correctly in the text describing its functionality, but whenever I referred (so to speak) to it directly as the menu item to be selected, I kept the misspelling (this was the early 90s, the days of people saying non-ironically that they couldn't find the "any" key on their computer).

Re: Apple agrees to settle potential class action suit by U.S. developers

#102

Post by nicolas_t »

jrockway wrote: post #76
ianlevesque wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You kid but they are a list of “tiers” that get localized.

I kind of assumed. You can't just take the price in dollars and convert it with the exchange rate, because customers don't want to buy a "89.398723 yen" app. It has to be $0.99, £0.89, ¥99, etc. It is interesting that things are not priced in "buying power", but in numbers that aim to most deceive. ("It's not even a dollar!")

Steam is very often priced in buying power. Depending on the country you live in, prices can be half as high as in other countries.

Re: Apple agrees to settle potential class action suit by U.S. developers

#103

Post by ksec »

>Apple agrees to make sure the search results in the App Store are based on objective criteria.

I cant help but laughed when I was reading it. What were they doing before that?

I thought the most important part was the next bit,

>The settlement, which must be approved by Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers, comes as Apple is awaiting a ruling in a separate lawsuit, brought by Fortnite developer Epic Games, which seeks to force Apple to allow rival in-app payment and store options.

>The same federal judge is hearing the Apple-Epic case and a ruling could come at any time.

My guess is that the way things are going in these cases are not in Apple's flavour. And for all the court case I followed over years Apple tends to be the favourite in court. Rightfully or not. ( Some of the Judge are very clearly biased ) But Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers was clearly trying to get to the bottom of things. And asking some very hard questions.

Is this enough? I am not sure if Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers is easy to please either. And let's not forget this is US only. EU are grinding their teeth. Then there are South Korea and Japan. And China is surpassingly quiet in all of these.

Phil Schiller was right, if Apple were to ever change its fee structure, that it should do so “from a position of strength rather than weakness”. It was unfortunate Steve passed away soon after that email.

Re: Apple agrees to settle potential class action suit by U.S. developers

#104

Post by croddin »

mynegation wrote: post #54
jrockway wrote: post #48

> Apple will offer more price points for apps. Today there are less than 100, but the company is committing to increase that to more than 500 options. I really hope they implemented this as an enum, so someone has to wade through: enum PricePoint { UNKNOWN = 0; NINTEY_NINE_CENTS = 1; ONE_DOLLAR = 2; TWENTY_DOLLARS = 3; NINETEY_EIGHT_CENTS = 4; DEPRECATED_NINETY_SEVEN_CENTS = 5; TEN_DOLLARS_PER_MONTH = 6; PORTUGAL_NAT…

Lol, few things trigger my OCD more than misspelled words in identifiers. I legit missed important use case while amending legacy system just because someone decided to have “priveleges” in the variable name. I hope all those ways to spell number 90 are part of the joke.

I was just trying to debug something today and noticed how the referer HTTP header is spelled wrong and that is the spec while there are several other headers that spell it referrer. Crazy!

Re: Apple agrees to settle potential class action suit by U.S. developers

#106

Post by [deleted] »

jrockway wrote: post #72
banana_giraffe wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll just leave this here for you: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7231#section-5.5.2

That's a good one. Since legacy code is less likely to change than the English language, I just call it a "referer" in writing unrelated to HTTP. That way, I'm never confused. (Everyone else? Good luck.)

[deleted]

Re: Apple agrees to settle potential class action suit by U.S. developers

#107

Post by [deleted] »

jrockway wrote: post #74
mynegation wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lol, few things trigger my OCD more than misspelled words in identifiers. I legit missed important use case while amending legacy system just because someone decided to have “priveleges” in the variable name. I hope all those ways to spell number 90 are part of the joke.

The key is to write out the enums to long-term storage as the names instead of the numbers, that way nobody can ever fix your spelling mistakes.

[deleted]

Re: Apple agrees to settle potential class action suit by U.S. developers

#108

Post by tdeck »

jsnell wrote: post #44
liquidise wrote: post #39

> Developers can communicate directly with customers about alternative payment options. Customers have to consent and be given the right to opt-out. This is a huge step forward (though it falls well short of the ideal case) for iOS development. Having the ability to tell customers about other, often cheaper, payment methods removes a substantial barrier for some apps that have high-priced subscriptions. Positive as t…

What do you think the step forward is here? The developers are still not allowed to communicate about alternate purchase options in the app, they would need to have some other form of communication with the user. Such advertising via side-channels was never forbidden, it's just that it's impractical for most developers to establish that side-channel. I really have to congratulate whoever wrote that press release. The…

Someone should set up a payment service for apps that's cheaper for the consumer and developer, then advertise it heavily. "Check if your favorite app is on FOO to save money". Every app using such a system could benefit from the direct advertising done once by the payment provider. They could even offer a service that checks your bill from Apple and helps you switch the payment for eligible apps, thereby saving money.

Re: Apple agrees to settle potential class action suit by U.S. developers

#109

Post by markdown »

ksec wrote: post #103

>Apple agrees to make sure the search results in the App Store are based on objective criteria. I cant help but laughed when I was reading it. What were they doing before that? I thought the most important part was the next bit, >The settlement, which must be approved by Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers, comes as Apple is awaiting a ruling in a separate lawsuit, brought by Fortnite developer Epic Games, which seeks to fo…

> It was unfortunate Steve passed away soon after that email.

I'm sure Steve sent a lot of emails. Which one are you referring to?

Re: Apple agrees to settle potential class action suit by U.S. developers

#110

Post by unclekev »

markdown wrote: post #109
ksec wrote: post #103

>Apple agrees to make sure the search results in the App Store are based on objective criteria. I cant help but laughed when I was reading it. What were they doing before that? I thought the most important part was the next bit, >The settlement, which must be approved by Judge Yvonne Gonzalez Rogers, comes as Apple is awaiting a ruling in a separate lawsuit, brought by Fortnite developer Epic Games, which seeks to fo…

> It was unfortunate Steve passed away soon after that email. I'm sure Steve sent a lot of emails. Which one are you referring to?

> Which one are you referring to?

This one:

https://www.theverge.com/2021/5/4/22418828/apple-app-store-c...

Post reply on HN