Why is it a vaccine? Are there going to be vaccine for everything in the future?
I think thanks to Covid booster shots they realise they can pivot to a Vaccine-as-a-Service model and create all sorts of recurring revenue streams.
Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme disease vaccine candidate
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#262Earlier quoted context omitted.
Especially once it stops being about race when we say we need to investigate how humans used the Scienctific process took "a solution in search of a problem" and collected samples laboratories, like searching for a needle in a haystack in Wuhan to purposefully replicate and infect chimeric rat/humans with bat viruses. Whether maliciously or not that is the likely prevailing Truth on why we now have a 5th corona virus…
Do you have sources for those claims? As computer scientist I’m certain you should understand the importance of reproducible data and analysis.
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#263Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have sources for those claims? As computer scientist I’m certain you should understand the importance of reproducible data and analysis.
https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-peop...
I mention all of that because even that wobbly claim was still couched in terms like “did” or “could” while the comment I replied to described it as “likely prevailing truth”. We have no evidence and limited data supporting that hypothesis and a number of people pushing it for political reasons, which is rarely helpful to the scientific process.
1. https://nautil.us/issue/102/hidden-truths/when-a-good-scient...
Re: Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme disease vaccine candidate
#264This is Phase 2, but I wonder how long Phase 3 will take, given that getting Lyme disease is still pretty rare, can easily be missed or misdiagnosed, it will takes a lot of time and people to get a significant effect between a control group and vaccinated people
I wish I’d had the vaccine.
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There was one but it was taken off the market. It's a bit of a sad story because it worked but because of unfounded claims that it had side effects, it lost trust of the public: "In clinical trials involving more than 10,000 people, the vaccine, called LYMErix, was found to confer protective immunity to Borrelia in 76% of adults and 100% of children with only mild or moderate and transient adverse effects. [...] Subs…
Unfounded claims from 100s of people developing imaginary autoimmune disorders? Mind you people are still getting compensated in court for autoimmune disorders arising from the Hep-B vaccine, even though no causal link was found. Just yesterday I had to accompany my sister to the phlebologist, because of severe side-effects from Pfizer, he told us he was seeing troves of patients for similar reasons even though offic…
That's because the standards for being compensated in vaccine court are very, very low, by design, and there is indeed a vaccine court of sorts in the US. It was set up specifically to address the fact herd immunity is so extremely valuable to society as a whole that it's worth having some people be harmed by the vaccine to achieve it because many more people will be saved by it, but not necessarily the same people. Anyone who suffers basically anything that could possibly be linked to a vaccine is then indemnified by that court, even though the vast majority of those who are were probably not indeed suffering because of the vaccine.
Don't take it as a proof that the vaccine is at fault, it's fallacious and is just one in the long list of completely idiotic arguments antivax cultists use. It makes barely more sense than calling ARNm "gene therapy" or complaining about non-existent mercury.
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#266Earlier quoted context omitted.
https://thebulletin.org/2021/05/the-origin-of-covid-did-peop...
That's an opinion piece by a journalist with a BA in Natural Sciences from 1964, not a virologist or otherwise an expert on any of the topics. His claims have not held up well and the biggest scientist he interviewed (David Baltimore) has backed away from that[1]. As they say, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof and he had very little other than speculation. I mention all of that because even that wobbly…
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#267Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I'd imagine a phlebologist is in a good position to know the difference between correlation and causation with regards to their practice and their patient population. Well, you would be wrong. Someone’s intuitive estimation of a section biased sample from an unknown total sample size compared to their memory from years ago is basically guessing. That is exactly why studies need to be conducted, with literally millio…
> Well, you would be wrong. You're overly confident for an assertion that relies on your belief that someone with decades of medical experience would be ignorant of these basic statistical pitfalls. Not that all doctors do research but I learned that stuff in my first year in the health industry and I can assure you that doctors are in general very knowledgeable about their patient base and the diseases they treat. A…
But things aren’t normal. Travel patterns have completely changed due to covid, so less or more people might be visiting a clinic than previously. People have been far more sedentary compared to previous years, a key risk factor for VTE, which could increase individual risk by as much as 30%. Covid itself causes VTE, so people with diagnosed and undiagnosed earlier cases of covid would increase the numbers.
> You're overly confident for an assertion that relies on your belief that someone with decades of medical experience would be ignorant of these basic statistical pitfalls.
Even in well thought out, carefully conducted studies, biases and confounding factors can cause serious issues. These aren’t “basic statistical pitfalls”. These are things that even the smartest people cannot account for without conducting an actual study with actual controls and randomization, actual statistical analysis, actual identification of confounding factors, actual reanalysis accounting for those, and actual peer review to make sure there were not issues you did not think of. I’m confident because I know that we do medical studies because we know that even the smartest people cannot just eyeball changes in incidence rates and cannot know which of many factors is likely causing the change. Even experts have human biases and we require the structure and rigor of studies to help mitigate them. I’m not confident that I am more knowledgeable than a doctor, I’m confident that the people much smarter than me developed evidence based medicine because they understood that no one is above bias, even your doctor.
>I don't know if we use VAERS at all being in Europe.
For Germany, you can report possible side effects here [1] which goes to the Bundesinstitut für Arzneimittel und Medizinprodukte (Federal Institute for Drugs and Medical Devices) and The Paul-Ehrlich-Institut (Federal Institute for Vaccines and Biomedicines). If I was incorrect and you are in another European country, you can find your reporting agency from the EU website here [2].
[1] https://nebenwirkungen.bund.de/nw/EN/home/home_node.html
Re: Valneva and Pfizer announce Phase 2 study for Lyme disease vaccine candidate
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Unfounded claims from 100s of people developing imaginary autoimmune disorders? Mind you people are still getting compensated in court for autoimmune disorders arising from the Hep-B vaccine, even though no causal link was found. Just yesterday I had to accompany my sister to the phlebologist, because of severe side-effects from Pfizer, he told us he was seeing troves of patients for similar reasons even though offic…
> Mind you people are still getting compensated in court for autoimmune disorders arising from the Hep-B vaccine, even though no causal link was found. That's because the standards for being compensated in vaccine court are very, very low, by design, and there is indeed a vaccine court of sorts in the US. It was set up specifically to address the fact herd immunity is so extremely valuable to society as a whole that…
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#269Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's an opinion piece by a journalist with a BA in Natural Sciences from 1964, not a virologist or otherwise an expert on any of the topics. His claims have not held up well and the biggest scientist he interviewed (David Baltimore) has backed away from that[1]. As they say, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof and he had very little other than speculation. I mention all of that because even that wobbly…
until it stops being true that the lead scientist at the wiv pioneered work in & published papers about inserting FCSes -- which other than covid do not exist in coronaviruses -- into bat coronaviruses for gain of function research, you will be facing a very uphill battle. there are so many damning claims in that piece that would be convincing on their own that i suspect you haven't even read it.
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#270Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Mind you people are still getting compensated in court for autoimmune disorders arising from the Hep-B vaccine, even though no causal link was found. That's because the standards for being compensated in vaccine court are very, very low, by design, and there is indeed a vaccine court of sorts in the US. It was set up specifically to address the fact herd immunity is so extremely valuable to society as a whole that…
I wish they had put mercury into the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine. At least you could use a vial for more than a few hours if they did that. Currently you have to throw away doses because bacteria may have started growing in them. The type of mercury they use in vaccines kills bacteria very well.