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Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

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How much to get a way to block “hey guys” at the start of a video?

Sponsorblock can skip sponsors, self-promos, subscribe reminders, intro animation, and end credits. (crowd-sources the timestamps) https://sponsor.ajay.app/

Alas not really watching a video on a browser.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#142
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So how come a fork was necessary?

youtube-dl has been inactive for the last 2 months. Most things still work but support of different services is something that needs daily updates to not break. Even if most popular websites still work, pages like Newgrounds are breaking. There's 3.7k open issues right now and nothing gets merged [0]. [0] https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl/issues

It's really stupid that this stuff still happens. I mean, youtube-dl main devs are stepping away, it's understandable. But it would be so much more convenient for everyone, if it was passed over to somebody, who is still interested (yt-dlp devs?) instead of ending up as a bunch of forks nobody knows about, and a dead project everyone continues to use. Just think about how many apps and scripts have youtube-dl hardcoded somewhere in them.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#143

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> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? Yes. Some of us don't like being assaulted with sales pitches everywhere we look.

I think for some us pro-sponsor-segment people, I feel like regular ads are particularly dry and more of an "assault." But sponsor segments... can be creative, funny, and sometimes make me actually want to buy the product (...not the generic Raid: Shadow Legends ones... but even those if they're well done). I appreciate well-made ads, so I don't mind sponsor segments. Here's an example of one that is... nonsensical a…

I watch a video for whatever topic the video title and description leads me to expect I'm going to hear about. A sponsorship segment, no matter how "clever", is still an ad.

> But sponsor segments... sometimes make me actually want to buy the product

That's exactly what I don't want: more sophisticated psychological manipulation that gets me to buy more stuff.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#144

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Preface: I am a Youtuber who prefers not to do sponsored segments but has done some in the past. > Advertising tends to naturally weed out, for me, the ones who are not as passionate about what they do. This is a remark I see over and over again, basically "You're only in it for the money" once you do sponsors. Here's the thing that no one really gets, Youtube is not a hobby. I don't care what the channel topic is, b…

YouTube is not a hobby? Interesting. I don't think I ever thought it was. I guess I consider it closer to art. Plenty of musicians, artists perform/create with no prospect of monetary gain. They do it for the accolades. They do it for the positive feedback. They do it because they have to: they're artists. I suspect YouTubers like "Applied Science" are artists of a sort. I guess I'm drawn to YouTube artists.

I am conflating things in my mind a bit because most of the comments on my own videos that complain about sponsors or other revenue options use the "not as passionate" argument alongside the idea of "Youtube should just be a hobby". My apologies if that came off wrong. But it is inevitable that anyone making videos that is successful will have to treat it as a business because it is work.

Applied Science is a good example of someone who has not gone the sponsor route. He is crowd funded and has a Patreon page that is setup to charge when he releases a video(I'm a patron of his actually). It is still work to make the videos and describe what he's doing and how it works. He could be sponsored, even relevantly, if for example he used a Rigol scope to show something and then talked about it for a bit. But that wouldn't mean he is any less passionate about what he is doing.

The musicians and artists example is different though. Their hobbies produce media as an end result. Publishing it is part of the process. I make videos about vintage computers. My hobby without youtube would just be me sitting alone in a room tinkering. Creating a video out of whatever I'm doing requires deliberate additional effort.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#145
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But what then do you think is a realistic alternative? YouTube costing $20/mo or more? Can’t watch videos without a patron? If your answer is nothing — I expect everything for free, then that’s both unrealistic and parasitic.

> But what then do you think is a realistic alternative? Not my department. I'm perfectly happy being a parasite. I used to watch Twitch every now and then. Twitch introduced server side ads and made ad-blocking unreliable and annoying - so i stopped using twitch. My life doesn't depend on youtube, and if they decide to shut me out or the platform stops existing, that's fine with me. Maybe other video platforms can t…

Twitch is still perfectly fine with streamlink. There's a 15 second loading screen where ads are meant to go (only at the start of your stream), but you don't see any ads.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#146
post #42

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Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. They’re not enough from YouTube itself unless you’re in the top percentile. Also what sponsored content are people downloading versus just streaming live? I don’t get the use case.

> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. In my experience, it's the same with ads everywhere else. It (usually) starts out not being overly obnoxious, with just a "this video is sponsored by [garbage tier mobile game/earphones/vpn/whatever] more about them…

Do you have YouTube premium? If not consider at some point, someone has to give the channel revenue stream or the channel will die

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#147

One of the nice features added to yt-dlp recently: It integrates with sponskrub to call into the SponsorBlock database and with the right options will strip the sponsor segments from downloaded videos. Edit: Correct typo

Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. They’re not enough from YouTube itself unless you’re in the top percentile. Also what sponsored content are people downloading versus just streaming live? I don’t get the use case.

> Are the sponsor parts really so bad?

All marketing is bad. It's essentially mindhacking.

> I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content

If people have something to say, they will say it whether they get paid for it or not. That's what I want. Real opinions from real people. Not some sponsored content you can't trust is real.

> otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund

It already is. All they have to do to lose funding is say or do something those sponsors don't like.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#148
post #42

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> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. In my experience, it's the same with ads everywhere else. It (usually) starts out not being overly obnoxious, with just a "this video is sponsored by [garbage tier mobile game/earphones/vpn/whatever] more about them…

Do you have YouTube premium? If not consider at some point, someone has to give the channel revenue stream or the channel will die

Why not just throw some money at their patreon, or buy some merch? Fairly sure they'll get more of that anyway.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#149
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Are the sponsor parts really so bad? To me not only is it easy to skip, I want indie people to make enough money to produce high quality content; otherwise media is just what a few biggies want to fund. In my experience, it's the same with ads everywhere else. It (usually) starts out not being overly obnoxious, with just a "this video is sponsored by [garbage tier mobile game/earphones/vpn/whatever] more about them…

Do you have YouTube premium? If not consider at some point, someone has to give the channel revenue stream or the channel will die

Why would you pay YouTube only to watch videos with hardcoded ads? Let it die.

Re: Yt-dlp – A YouTube-dl fork with additional features and fixes

#150

haven't paid attention to this since all the drama last year but again - what are all of you using youtube-dl for? Archiving your channel subs?

I genuinely hate using YouTube because it's awful. Random pop-ups all over the page. Weird suggestions on the sidebar because I don't have an account and don't want one. Ads that start in the middle of a sentence and play again if you rewind, etc. so you can't actually understand the video you're watching. So I wrote an app that takes a YouTube URL, downloads the video with youtube-dl, and just plays it in a normal O…

You might also enjoy invidio.us, in the off chance you end up stranded on a remote island without youtube-dl handy.
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