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My Tungsten Cube (2019)

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Re: My Tungsten Cube (2019)

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That I readily believe, but to face a sheet is a different matter, which I believe was the application the OP intended. You can also cut tungsten with water jets loaded with abrasives, I've seen a 2" thick block cut like that, it was quite impressive. But that won't get you a surface. You'd need to start with a sheet of the right thickness.

Cut it off the end of a bar.

Hehe. Very funny :)

Re: My Tungsten Cube (2019)

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I instead bought a lamp with tungsten filament filled with Xenon gas for $5. Sometimes I slowly apply a little current to it to see the filament radiate. This is a 150W halogen bulb. I don't know what the crystal is made of, but tungsten and xenon are interesting.

Re: My Tungsten Cube (2019)

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I have a tungsten wedding ring and the weirdest thing about it is how it bounces (on the occasions when it’s flown out of my hand - I don’t make a habit of doing so normally). It’s dense/heavy so seeing it bounce so well is somewhat paradoxical. (Side note: it may be impossible to cut through in case of an emergency but your finger is not.)

I believe you can shatter then with vice grips in an emergency.

Re: My Tungsten Cube (2019)

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post #149

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That I readily believe, but to face a sheet is a different matter, which I believe was the application the OP intended. You can also cut tungsten with water jets loaded with abrasives, I've seen a 2" thick block cut like that, it was quite impressive. But that won't get you a surface. You'd need to start with a sheet of the right thickness.

True. I bet a quick call to Rembar would put you on your way to a source if you just need sheet. Tungsten foil/sheet isn't that hard to come by.

I've only ever used bar stock, but I imagine the same suppliers would have sheet as well though I can see a couple of arched eyebrows when you order that, plus a question or two if you are absolutely sure they have your order down accurately.

Cost a small fortune too.

Re: My Tungsten Cube (2019)

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This is one of those moments I feel so out of touch with the community here. Is this even real life?

I actually had the opposite reaction. A few months ago, I was researching a project involving a counterweight, and the periodic table led me to tungsten on account of its density. That was until I saw the price. Ever since then I have been vaguely considering buying a tungsten cube as a curiosity. I am bemused to find that others on hacker news seem to have arrived at the same idea.

Totally by coincidence, yesterday I was trying to plot out the cost/kg vs. density Pareto optimality curve. Construction sand is US$0.03/kg and 2.4 g/cc; magnetite is US$0.10/kg and about 5 g/cc (I don't have the notes in front of me); scrap steel is US$0.20/kg and 7.9 g/cc; scrap lead is US$0.95/kg and 11.3 g/cc or maybe a bit less; tungsten is US$30/kg and 19 g/cc; and osmium is US$13000/kg and 22.65 g/cc. I'm interested to know what I'm missing; is there anything denser than steel but cheaper than lead, for example, or denser than magnetite but cheaper than scrap steel? Is there tungsten carbide that's cheaper than tungsten?

Mercury is denser than lead but doesn't have a well-defined market price any more and has certain disadvantages. Many mercury amalgams would be a better substitute in many circumstances, but they might impose high costs on you for reasons that come down to pure superstition.

Re: My Tungsten Cube (2019)

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Tungsten is about the only minimally-hazardous substance I could find that could max out the 70-pound weight limit on a (US) Priority Mail flat-rate envelope, but that would be an expensive stunt.

Not only that, machining that piece would take ages and wear out a fortune in tooling.

Bear in mind that we're talking about metallic tungsten here, not tungsten carbide (WC). It's a little slow and expensive but it can be machined in fairly conventional ways, using tungsten carbide tipped tooling.

Tungsten has an enormously high melting point, the normal way tungsten parts are produced, for typical industrial purposes such as radiation shielding, is sintering (powder + heat + pressure) to near-net-shape, finished with a machining pass.

Re: My Tungsten Cube (2019)

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$9,000 for a 1cm cube. That's "winning the lotto impulse purchase" level for me.

It's not like that money disappears. Just think of it like buying gold bullion. Unlike say, a $9000 motorcycle impulse purchase, a block of raw metal should hold it's inflation adjusted value relatively well for decades and you can sell it whenever to recoup the money.

Gold bullion has a healthy market to sell back into though.I don't know the numbers, but i wouldn't be surprised if I could easily sell gold for 80% of "market" value, whereas probably closer to 20% for something like Iridium that has a very small adressable market unless I were to expend considerable effort finding someone willing to pay what it's worth.

Re: My Tungsten Cube (2019)

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post #149

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True. I bet a quick call to Rembar would put you on your way to a source if you just need sheet. Tungsten foil/sheet isn't that hard to come by.

I've only ever used bar stock, but I imagine the same suppliers would have sheet as well though I can see a couple of arched eyebrows when you order that, plus a question or two if you are absolutely sure they have your order down accurately. Cost a small fortune too.

Thank you very much!

Re: My Tungsten Cube (2019)

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I originally had a tungsten ring when I got married and managed to shatter both it and its replacement within a year. Terrible for rings, just go with silver if you want or need a cheap wedding ring.

My choice was titanium, which I used to make ours. It is (IMHO) among the finest of all materials for the job.

Titanium is a good choice, much harder to break than tungsten and cheaper than tungsten or silver, too.

Re: My Tungsten Cube (2019)

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$9,000 for a 1cm cube. That's "winning the lotto impulse purchase" level for me.

It's not like that money disappears. Just think of it like buying gold bullion. Unlike say, a $9000 motorcycle impulse purchase, a block of raw metal should hold it's inflation adjusted value relatively well for decades and you can sell it whenever to recoup the money.

New form of investment?
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