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CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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Re: CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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Lots of seemingly unwarranted gray comments in this thread.

Meta: I'd rather see some kind of mark indicating lots of downvotes rather than grayed out text. It really hurts my eyes trying to read gray text, and it is very frustrating. Oftentimes downvoted comments have value but go against some particular groupthink.

I agree. It'd be nice to see the karma threshold for downvote powers vary based on the thread.

It's a lot harder to get a bunch of accounts to 5,000 karma than it is 500. There's enough HN users in that range to still take out the trash, but it'd create major problems for disinformation rings trying to sway the discussion.

Re: CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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post #119

Lots of seemingly unwarranted gray comments in this thread.

Expected. Threads like these turn into a wasteland of downvotes for a reason. China is a superpower. Superpowers have units dedicated to information warfare. Some of these units deal with controlling discourse and sentiment. HN is a fairly prominent public forum within the tech industry. China wants global influence, particular in the technology sector. It's reasonable to assume they probably have some fairly clever…

The USA is a superpower. Superpowers have units dedicated to information warfare. Some of these units deal with controlling discourse and sentiment. HN is a fairly prominent public forum within the tech industry. The USA wants global influence, particular in the technology sector.

It's reasonable to assume they probably have some fairly clever downvote rings here that are well hidden.

Re: CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It gets even more complex when you look at the history. The Yuan dynasty were ruled by the Mongolians. The Mongolians were devout Buddhists and revered the Tibetan Buddhists. The search for reincarnated Tulkas by the Tibetan Buddhists would extend into the Mongolian regions. The imperial family gave a lot of autonomy to Tibet. The last Imperial dynasty, Qing, was ruled by Manchurians. The Manchurians were a foreign,…

Just imagine if woke people invented a time machine. How would they figure out who's the oppressed that deserves to be saved?

If I had to guess, it would depend on how those historical figures relate to contemporary partisan politics.

Re: CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

So, native Americans?

Yes, what was done to native Americans was wrong and should not be done to Tibetans, Uyghurs, Mongolians, or any other ethnicity in China.

What was done to Vietnamese, Syrians, Libyans, Afghans, Iraqis, Somalis, Serbians, etc is also wrong.

Re: CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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https://freetibet.org/about/legal-status-tibet Imagine being called a minority in a place you are the majority and have lived for centuries before occupation. https://www.britannica.com/place/Tibet/People "The population of the region is almost entirely Tibetan, with Han (Chinese), Hui (Chinese Muslims), Monba, Lhoba, and other minority nationalities. Thus, the majority of the people of Tibet have the same ethnic ori…

"Imagine being called a minority in a place you are the majority and have lived for centuries before occupation. "

Errrrr like White people in near future US?

And there goes my karma..

[1] - https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2021/08/12/census-da...

Re: CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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post #77

China is pretty scary in this way. The Han ethnic group is the majority in population and leadership and it is enacting policies to suppress the population numbers of non Han-ethnic groups in the country. They do it via birth control and family separation so it happening slowly but it is still decreasing the population of non-Han ethnic groups in comparison to the Han ethnic group. When this was done elsewhere it was…

There are increasing number of reports in Canada that Indigenous Women were forcefully sterilized in the last few decades. Women who gave birth in hospitals had their tubes tied after giving birth. I agree this is a one of "the worst forms of racisim/ethonicide/genocide". And yes, I dont understand why more (white) Canadians are not aware of this, and why there has not been a larger out cry over this. https://www.cbc…

yea exactly thing is most people don't want that to happen today.. in Canada.. and the government also.. nor do we want it to happen in west Taiwan... i don't get these peoples arguments that because other people did evil crap west Taiwan should be allowed to do it as well? is that what your trying to say?

Re: CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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post #58

Really sad to see Tibet under CCP control. It would be much preferable if the region were an autonomous province of India, with whom Tibet has cultural affinity. Note that the real Dalai Lama has had to live in exile for decades in India, while seeing his people get slowly indoctrinated by the Chinese government via various education programs and such ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Dalai_Lama ). The word peop…

Tibet is a threat to China, since it's where the rivers start. Tibet under India's control is a doomsday scenario for chinese sovereignty

Seems a bit silly to worry about the water supply when both sides have nukes.

Re: CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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https://freetibet.org/about/legal-status-tibet Imagine being called a minority in a place you are the majority and have lived for centuries before occupation. https://www.britannica.com/place/Tibet/People "The population of the region is almost entirely Tibetan, with Han (Chinese), Hui (Chinese Muslims), Monba, Lhoba, and other minority nationalities. Thus, the majority of the people of Tibet have the same ethnic ori…

> Imagine being called a minority in a place you are the majority and have lived for centuries before occupation. There's lots of criticism I'd have for Chinese policy, but this terminology isn't one of them. It's very common to use the term "minority" to refer to a group that is a minority at the national level, but could still be a majority in some local level. This is true in the American context as well (Native A…

Being a minority is a description of political power as much as sheer demographic statistics. There are cases where minorities are the majority, too. Women make up 51% of the US population, but in virtually every other sense they are a minority. In South Africa during apartheid, the black population could be described as a minority in spite of their actual demographic proportions (over 75%).

Re: CCP publication calls Tibet policy a template for other ethnic minority regions

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https://freetibet.org/about/legal-status-tibet Imagine being called a minority in a place you are the majority and have lived for centuries before occupation. https://www.britannica.com/place/Tibet/People "The population of the region is almost entirely Tibetan, with Han (Chinese), Hui (Chinese Muslims), Monba, Lhoba, and other minority nationalities. Thus, the majority of the people of Tibet have the same ethnic ori…

I believe the CCP is encouraging Han to move there until the Tibetans are no longer the majority. They may have already accomplished this, as an accurate census is hard to find.

I remember articles from 10 years ago alledging China forcefully sterilized Tibetans.
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