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Interesting. They supposedly shared content previously that indicated they were not a woman: https://www.reddit.com/r/redditoroftheday/comments/bdl3o/max... Maybe, maybe not. What is the proof of the connection? Just the time of disappearance and the username? That is pretty circumstantial, but maybe. Not conclusive though. EDIT: This article seems to have more evidence and is at least interesting: https://www.inputm…

I put very little trust in self-reported information online. Someone like Ghislaine would probably recognize the value and zero cost of sowing nuggets of false information in public posts. (However, this expectation also makes me doubt that Ghislaine Maxwell would choose a username with "maxwell" in it...)

Maxwellhill is an old account. I think online user anonymity is a biggest deal and people realize the value of that. Sort of like op security. So I could see her registering that 14 years ago. But over time she should have realized she need better security. Why she would continue to use it 14 years later is more of a question?

Maybe. The account stopped posting 2 days before she was arrested. And hasn't posted since.

Re: Almost all of the top subreddits are moderated by the same people

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Reddit modding is a network of cartels; this post is just pointing out the one that controls the front page. There are cartels that control most groups of closely related (by subject or theme) subs as far as I can tell, and subs that are closely related primarily because they are modded by a particular cartel. There's also constant mod drama, with intra-cartel disputes developing into schisms, and inter-cartel disput…

> irrationally motivated

This 100%. Once you've interacted with one of these people, you realize how completely insane they have to be to spend as much time as they do doing what they do. All they want is internet power. In real life, they would be that crazy guy in the neighborhood who never shuts up that people just learn to ignore because they know the man doesn't speak with any rationality. Online, they become gods.

If free speech is to be free, then godly reputation internet people should not be allowed to accumulate power, because the personality required to seek it by itself speaks volumes of how opinionated, undemocratic, authoritarian, and morally challenged they are.

Re: Almost all of the top subreddits are moderated by the same people

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It might not be forever. I had an admin shadowban me once across the entire site for daring to post on r/indiegaming and r/gaming, two subs I commented on constantly, a single link to a video game I made over six months (well at least that's the best reason I can come up with, I was never told a reason why, I know certain subreddits are super anti-self-promotion for some reason though). I didn't even notice for six m…

Honest question: Why would you continue using a site that treats you like this? I would go find something else to share my limited attention with. I remember getting banned on Fark (remember them?) and I simply never went back. If you don't want me participating, I won't add free content to your business. I was even a paying subscriber there, and dropped the subscription immediately. People need to start cutting ties…

I wish more people shared this opinion. There are many Reddit alternatives, which would all improve with wider adoption. As a technical problem, it’s a solved one, and there are some pleasant options.

Re: Almost all of the top subreddits are moderated by the same people

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The online platforms that were supposed to provide us a democratic free space to communicate are in fact governed by a tyrannical and unaccountable minority. We see the same situation on Facebook with group moderators and on Twitter (albeit less so) with high follower count blue-check accounts. Not to mention the companies themselves having the power to ban any speech they want.

It's almost as if this utopian techno-ararchism is a naive fantasy. And it simply creates digital societies with all of the downsides of their real world equivalents, and none of the checks to power and even more susceptible to manipulation. And yet it's only a matter of time until another 20 something will announce that they can solve the problems of the world and human nature by creating yet another digital environ…

A ha! I've found a way to change the world without needing to engage in political or cultural struggle! Surely this will benefit the people and not be co-opted by the powerful!

Re: Almost all of the top subreddits are moderated by the same people

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On the face of it seems strange why anyone would want to moderate popular subreddits, just seems like a lot of unpaid mundane and never ending work. Younger me might of been excited to do it from the perceived status perhaps. I do wonder how many off-site deals are done with moderators and third parties. There’s a lot of traffic these people are able to steward and influence I imagine.

>unpaid

You might be surprised how easy it is for mods of even somewhat popular subreddits to monetize their position. Of course not all do, but there are absolutely subtle ways to profit.

Re: Almost all of the top subreddits are moderated by the same people

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Funnily enough, I was shadowbanned from the only community in reddit that I was active and cared about (/r/firefox) after respectfully complaining about the redesign in 2 different posts. Maybe there's a threshold of how many times we're allowed to complain over there? This was my first shadowban and teached me: a) It's not worth to invest time in these communities. b) To be shadow-banned is extremely insulting, espe…

I will not engage in a community that shadow-ban people even if they have inflammatory or abusive behavior I just wanted to point out that hacker news shadow bans...

Do shadow bans show up as dead comments? I have noticed comments from new (green) users sometimes immediately show up as dead, is that related?

Re: Almost all of the top subreddits are moderated by the same people

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Reddit provides tooling to identify people on new accounts that have been banned in the past. I think you'd need to couple this with a VPN

Not true. Only admins can see alt accounts(based on IP address), and they never reveal alt accounts of others to even mods.

I've had new accounts banned for participating in subreddits where old accounts had been banned

Re: Almost all of the top subreddits are moderated by the same people

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I recently joined r/afghanistan to get better real time updates on the situation there. I'm not the only one; the forum has basically doubled in size in the past week. Turns out the mods are conservative-leaning think tanks like the Westminster Institute and Hoover Institute. They self-promote their own content by pinning it to the top of the page, and censor criticism of their orgs.

I don't see why Reddit tolerates this behavior on what should be a neutral forum.

Re: Almost all of the top subreddits are moderated by the same people

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On the face of it seems strange why anyone would want to moderate popular subreddits, just seems like a lot of unpaid mundane and never ending work. Younger me might of been excited to do it from the perceived status perhaps. I do wonder how many off-site deals are done with moderators and third parties. There’s a lot of traffic these people are able to steward and influence I imagine.

It's certainly not just status and influence.

Sometimes you watch a group descend into being a cesspool of awfulness. The light stuff is death by boring memes, insults galore, "just an opinion" that are high-emotion crazy rants.

But the heavy stuff is worse. Watching individuals be egregiously insulted and threatened. Watching people delete their informative and well-meaning posts and never come back, because the first comment was some evil asshole having another content-free belittling attack because that's just what they do, no reason. Watching people be told they are incompetent, useless, should die, are the wrong gender, that sort of thing.

It is perhaps worse on locality-specific forums. Because then you are in view of people you know in your area, or are likely to interact with in future. Assholes don't care, and seem to enjoy the "status" that comes from putting down other people in the local area.

It does not help that such interactions seem to act like magnets in local forums, where putting people down through petty and unjustified insults attracts more of the same, and substantive interactions are lost. I guess that's because easy putdowns are low effort entertainment for some people.

But people finding themselves on the "unwinnable debate" receiving end of that sort of thing, end up leaving forums to get away from it, or are highly stressed whenever they have something to say, and may spend hours trying to carefully word everything just to avoid petty flamage from assholes and get substantive replies instead.

So some people are motivated to try to keep community areas a little gentler and cleaner. To protect and welcome others who appear to be joining in good faith, from the occasional blast of shitty replies. Like another commenter said, it's like clearing up litter when you go for a walk. Would be nice if it wasn't necessary, but because some people litter, others want to clear it up.

That's enough of a motivation for some. I've seen people spend hours moderating out of nothing more than a sense of civic duty and a desire to protect other people and encourage them to stay and feel welcomed and defended, to grow the community in a more friendly directionm, and to try to make the forum a less stressful place for new participants who have doing nothing wrong.

Like any volunteer working for something they feel is a good cause.

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