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Post by bodge5000 »

laputan_machine wrote: post #306
lugged wrote: post #257

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You know Devs can relatively easily get around 250k in NY / SF right? Trades are solid career choices but it's hard work and you expire at about the same rate as a software dev.

So sick of seeing these wildly inflated numbers, they increase after every post I'm sure. Most of us here who are software devs are not earning close to 150k, stop using a few SF salaries as the baseline for the rest of us. It is really annoying.

This is very true, but you hear the same thing from craftsmen. Another commenter further up said that a HVAC repairmen told him that making $200k/year in that job was pretty average, and a reply to that pointed out the median was $50k/year.

Not saying I disagree, but yeh, its not unique to software dev it seems

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Post by radu_floricica »

ledauphin wrote: post #685
radu_floricica wrote: post #538

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A bit of a tangent, but the dynamics in high-value investment is quite the opposite. You have people with lots of money (they do exist) who don't have anything to do with that money. They want to make it grow, and often are paid or otherwise incentivized to make it grow, but it's kinda hard to find a way of making 1 billion make you 100 million in a couple of years, without doing micromanagement for 1000 different 1-…

can you explain this a bit more? Why wouldn't "invest in an index fund" be the obvious alternative to micromanaging thousands of investments?

I'm sure lots do use index funds. And I'm sure quite a few should use index funds, but waste money instead in pointless investments. But most who look for other opportunities do it for the same reason most of us don't invest in index funds even if it's the safe bet: they want more.

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Post by HeavyStorm »

e40 wrote: post #686
Sebb767 wrote: post #505

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I've actually heard that quite often and it seems anecdotally true to me, but is there actually any study to prove this?

I had completely stopped downloading movies in 2018, and even for that year, I downloaded very few. I had been tapering off since 2015. These are real numbers from my NAS. I got a seedbox 2 months ago. This was my last straw: trying to rent some movie on Amazon and was told I had to subscribe to some service to watch it--there was no price to watch it once. The other things I did recently: 1) paused Google YTTV becau…

Still an anecdote...

And, no qualms of conscience there at all?

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Post by kipchak »

CobrastanJorji wrote: post #516
kipchak wrote: post #452

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GameTap had a Decent collection of Sega consoles and arcade titles back in the day, though it unfortunately never got off the ground. Nintendo has been particularly aggressive regarding ligating against ROMs historically and sold them as individual units, though with the Switch's online service's free NES/SNES games it seems like they're dipping their toes into the model. I think the risk to them is if someone winds…

I worked on GameTap! Old ROM websites at the time had these click-through agreements that would say things like "you may only download these ROMs if you have explicit, written permission from the publisher" and I may be on of the only living people who've clicked one of those "I agree" links in good faith. Technically, GameTap had some really neat little features. For example, it would track your high score for most…

Reading back I definitely come off a bit too harsh on gametap - It was a good service from the start. but I remember it seeming like there was trouble figuring out a pricing/content model that worked, as you said a lot of people who were excited for those sorts of games are often able to download roms as well.

I think it may just have been ahead of it's time in terms of model in the era of battlepasses, paid online and gamepass, as well as monthly paid streaming services in general.

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Post by cjpa »

dragontamer wrote: post #623
toofy wrote: post #608

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I could see why this might be your first thought, but I suspect this move might have hurt OF more than helping, simply because most of the people who formerly/currently call OF home have now lost any sense of stability. Tho, as we’ve seen in the past, network effect will likely play a huge part in most of the content creators staying with OF. However I just can’t imagine the feeling of safety/permanence in platform c…

Or maybe it helped OF, because they got to call out Mastercard / Visa and maybe negotiate a better deal out of it?

Devin Nash explains the issue here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NURYbrDk7k

tldr: Financial transactions for porn suffer VERY high cashback rates so traditional payment operators do NOT like them because they become expensive to them VERY quickly.

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Post by CityOfThrowaway »

nemothekid wrote: post #698
CityOfThrowaway wrote: post #400

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For the sake of correctness, Bezos is definitely not in a $500M jet. The only jet at that price is owned by a Saudi Prince. Also, the idea that Bezos and people like him never sell stock is just completely wrong. This stuff is public record, you can look it up. Here’s an article that did it already [0]. Which means, yes, Bezos and all the other über rich pay taxes and don’t borrow money to avoid taxes until they die.…

> Also, the idea that Bezos and people like him never sell stock is just completely wrong. ProPublica did some pretty good investigating reporting showing that no, that idea is not "completely wrong". https://www.propublica.org/article/the-secret-irs-files-trov...

I said “never sell stock” is wrong. You read “never take loans against shares” which I didn’t say.

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Post by strogonoff »

miracle2k wrote: post #954
bigdollopenergy wrote: post #799

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It's been an ongoing story ramping up since May, but this I believe is the main story with all the research they did. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-58255865

Oh god, what typically terrible, tendentious journalism. This is the kind of article that tries to dish up dozens of random allegations, intermixing them in strange ways, hoping that what sticks with the reader is a general sense of wrong-doing. Among other things, it tries to imply that Only Fans somehow allows "big" accounts to post child porn multiple times with a warning, including by misusing the world "illegal"…

> This is the kind of article that tries to dish up dozens of random allegations, intermixing them in strange ways, hoping that what sticks with the reader is a general sense of wrong-doing.

Literally the first paragraph is the smoking gun:

> Internal documents, leaked to BBC News, reveal that OnlyFans allows moderators to give multiple warnings to accounts that post illegal content on its online platform before deciding to close them.

I.e., they literally allowed their users to post illegal stuff (apparently including CSAM, according to the guy from US Homeland Security they quote?) and keep making money, rather than reporting such cases. The rest is secondary. BBC editors are actually usually good at applying the inverted pyramid principle.

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Post by theCodeStig »

da_chicken wrote: post #405
rootsudo wrote: post #36

My biggest shock was how much "PR" was generated on Reddit, and how many sexworkers really do use the platform. I knew it was a thing, I knew of the memes, but to see both sides in arms over a company vs branding, creating their own website and content - and vanity domain as well. People really do just want a one click solution for creating adult content, and consuming adult content. And the memes, I think they're pr…

> People really do just want a one click solution for creating adult content, and consuming adult content. Once they know it's possible, people want a one click solution for anything. The subject being taboo has nothing to do with it. This is one reason why Youtube, Spotify, Steam and Netflix did such a good job combatting piracy for music, video games, and movies, while ROM sites are still a ubiquitous problem for 2…

I don’t see how ROMs for a 20 year old console would be a problem. The console and games are no longer sold. The producers have made all of the profit that they would make, on the original sale. They don’t see any profit on sales of used consoles and games.

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Post by qorrect »

UnpossibleJim wrote: post #896
e40 wrote: post #686

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I had completely stopped downloading movies in 2018, and even for that year, I downloaded very few. I had been tapering off since 2015. These are real numbers from my NAS. I got a seedbox 2 months ago. This was my last straw: trying to rent some movie on Amazon and was told I had to subscribe to some service to watch it--there was no price to watch it once. The other things I did recently: 1) paused Google YTTV becau…

I genuinely do not understand how Amazon can have dropped the ball on their UI for this long, this bad. Given their drive to get customers to consume shipped product, their track record with digital products is abysmal. Video games is a product problem and that's a different discussion, but "television" and movies are a different matter. The product and consumer appetite are there, but the roadblock is the UI. Does n…

I don't understand it either. It might be hard to quantify the affect of their Prime streaming business on their sales and thus they don't prioritize it ? That's my only guess, it feels to me like their most public product and its received the least attention.
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