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In Chile three border collies are planting seeds (2017)

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Re: In Chile three border collies are planting seeds (2017)

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It always saddens me when people get working dogs like border collies as pets without understanding their needs. Without constant stimulation they get bored and basically lose their minds. It’s really important to know what you are getting into. I guess the same is true for intelligent birds like parrots or ravens . Most people don’t understand the level of commitment these animals need.

I can't wait for more button mashing "talking dog" examples, especially if done by professionals like Cesar Milan. Being able to actively communicate could lead to all sorts of improved physical and mental health practices for dogs. Bunny, of YouTube and tiktok fame, has demonstrated remarkably abstract thoughts, and the fart/poop humor [1] was a revelation to me. Dogs are treated like automata or mindless things, bu…

> professionals like Cesar Milan

The man is simply harmful, tho [1]. His methods promote aggressive approach where you take control by threatening your dog with your body language.

[1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppLnTlF8s0k (huge number of dislikes, but talk to anybody who works with dogs professionally)

Re: In Chile three border collies are planting seeds (2017)

#34

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I can't wait for more button mashing "talking dog" examples, especially if done by professionals like Cesar Milan. Being able to actively communicate could lead to all sorts of improved physical and mental health practices for dogs. Bunny, of YouTube and tiktok fame, has demonstrated remarkably abstract thoughts, and the fart/poop humor [1] was a revelation to me. Dogs are treated like automata or mindless things, bu…

> professionals like Cesar Milan The man is simply harmful, tho [1]. His methods promote aggressive approach where you take control by threatening your dog with your body language. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppLnTlF8s0k (huge number of dislikes, but talk to anybody who works with dogs professionally)

Well you can always be bitten by a dog, they are not perfect engines but animals. However i do too think that his "technique" is far from good.

Someone i really look up to is Vanessa Bokr owner of the https://www.hellhound-foundation.com:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQijH4vvDMo

Sorry for being just in german.

Re: In Chile three border collies are planting seeds (2017)

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How are the seeds collected? I just read about how afforestation efforts in India use non native saplings from the lowest bidder.

I was also curious about the seeds; I googled and read about eight different articles about this project, several mentioned that they were native, but I couldn’t find anything more specific than “grasses and flowers.”

I have no idea what kind of tree can grow from seeds that are simply scattered, although I suppose I have seen some willows that grew from discarded branches(!).

Re: In Chile three border collies are planting seeds (2017)

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Why not put the seeds in the Water that is being used by the planes to extinguish the fires?

Maybe not in the first run/flight, but in the later ones, when a fire has been taken out almost completely.

And even when not using the fire fighting planes I think spreading the seeds with a helicopter would be much faster and more efficient.

Re: In Chile three border collies are planting seeds (2017)

#37
Much as I like terraforming or small scale guerrilla gardening, no one thinks to ask what they are planting because the photo shoot looks good?

Mindlessly changing the structure of a forest is somewhat..... If it's in monoculture forestry then fair enough. But I'd expect to be told as part of the story.

A drone could do two orders of magnitude more rehab for around the same price of equipment, so it's not like they are planting in a large area, but if they are invasive plants, which natives can also be, it could do a lot of damage. Their seed stock bag is from a Canadian seed company, but maybe it's just a bag?

Here's guerrilla gardening, but removing invasive weeds -

How Goats are Regenerating a Forest and Protecting this Town from Bushfire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9yiclBCxMo

Re: In Chile three border collies are planting seeds (2017)

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This isn't just good for the forests, this is good for the Border Collies! They love to work, and deprived of work they become a little bit insane. I've seen one run faster than cars doing 35mph (or more) and I've seen the same dog just go, go, go, go, go until it couldn't go anymore, and love every second of it. This is just fantastic on a lot of levels.

>They love to work and that is what puzzles me - the ranchers kill and don't allow wolves reintroduction because it is supposedly hurting their herds when instead they could have just got herding dogs.

>just got herding dogs.

Yeah it's not a "just" they are not for free. But in north-Italy and Switzerland they are payed by the government and leased (the dogs have no problem with it since the family are the sheep's and not the human)

Re: In Chile three border collies are planting seeds (2017)

#39

Why not put the seeds in the Water that is being used by the planes to extinguish the fires? Maybe not in the first run/flight, but in the later ones, when a fire has been taken out almost completely. And even when not using the fire fighting planes I think spreading the seeds with a helicopter would be much faster and more efficient.

Most trees cannot grow immediately < 1y after a fire, but they put sometimes fertilizer in the Water.

Re: In Chile three border collies are planting seeds (2017)

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I can't wait for more button mashing "talking dog" examples, especially if done by professionals like Cesar Milan. Being able to actively communicate could lead to all sorts of improved physical and mental health practices for dogs. Bunny, of YouTube and tiktok fame, has demonstrated remarkably abstract thoughts, and the fart/poop humor [1] was a revelation to me. Dogs are treated like automata or mindless things, bu…

> professionals like Cesar Milan The man is simply harmful, tho [1]. His methods promote aggressive approach where you take control by threatening your dog with your body language. [1]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppLnTlF8s0k (huge number of dislikes, but talk to anybody who works with dogs professionally)

We were very surprised that my (reluctant first time dog-owner) parents were told to physically pin their dog down as a way of asserting dominance. It’s weird to see that this might be “a thing”.

It just seems like it is likely to make the dog see that as a way of trying to assert dominance, whereas in almost all other cases positive reinforcement (and negative attention from undesired attention) seems to be perfectly adequate.

Perhaps it’s only supposed to be something for the worst-case untrained dogs and has spread out from there?

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