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Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by tester34 »

hamburgerwah wrote: post #105

Discord is the classic freemium monopoly trap. They want to capture market share with a walled garden and once they do they will alter the terms to milk out every last drop of revenue they can before everyone jumps ship to the new new thing.

Could you name at least two other platforms that offer at least

Decent chat (file sharing, emojis, support for code snippets), decent voice chat, decent streaming and supports PUSH2TALK button?

and I personally prefer when it is not self-hosted due to DDoS risk, but it's not must have.

and is e.g F/OSS?

Because I'm unable to name and that's why I started using Discord

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by afiori »

ComodoHacker wrote: post #91
Amasuriel wrote: post #52

I’ve used discord for a long time and greatly prefer it to slack, teams and Mattermost (the three competitors I’ve used most often). Ironically the only think stopping me from strongly advocating for its adoption in business is that I’m already a user! Much like GitHub and to a lesser extent teams, they seem to not get the idea that I have different personas related to different parts of my life that absolutely shoul…

> I have different personas related to different parts of my life that absolutely should not mix Looks like the only one who support this is Telegram. Might be because they (supposedly) don't mine your data.

I am curious now can you explain more? As far as I know Telegram requires a unique phone number for every account on registration.

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by vodkapump »

sadness3 wrote: post #93

I have a bad feeling about this. Discord essentially does one thing really well. I don't want to see it go down the way of so many chat platforms trying to be everything and becoming a bloated mess. Recently, they replaced the fun, gamery loading messages with something more "formal". Now it does it's one thing slightly less well. The first of many casualties, no doubt. It makes me despair of business models which re…

My main recent annoyance is that they removed the mentions tab on mobile, and replaced it with some weird feature called stage (some sort of clubhouse ripoff where you do... livestreaming?) It placed the mentions in under the search(?!?!) tab, which adds 2 clicks, and also added significant time delays sometimes when the search tab has to load for 3-10seconds........ I have a server with lots of discord "OGs" back from 2015, and it's the most complained about change that has been discussed in that server, by far.

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by cblconfederate »

There is a huge wave of transitions from reddit/ forums towards discord because it offers voice chat / image uploads for free. It's not gonna last at that, chat is a bad format compared to hierarchical replies, hard to search etc. Gaming is their niche but at some point games will want to stop bleeding their community to them. There is also a proliferation of communities which leads to a lot of activity because it's a new platform, but as always, very few of them will survive. Then at some point they 'll also block all NSFW content and more people will leave. The value of their offering is that they re free, but money runs out, and slack already exists. Another case of overfunding for unsustainable growth.

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by alpaca128 »

ejj28 wrote: post #38

Every single Discord-related post here I see comments about the "bad ux". I'm a heavy Discord user and I have no complaints with the UX, I find it pretty intuitive to be honest. I'm also constantly seeing people in shock that people would choose to use Discord over IRC/Matrix/Teamspeak/Mumble. I find Discord to be light years ahead of anything else available, and for an average person who's going to have a hard time…

What's intuitive about having to click one of the tiniest buttons in a corner of the screen to disconnect voice chat? I literally killed the process a couple times when I started using Discord because I couldn't find it. Why can I double-click to join a channel but not leave with any UI in the same area?

It also took me a while to figure out how to quit the damn thing. The only way seems to be right-clicking the tray icon. Which is nice as long as you have a tray in the first place. Having a "File > Quit" menu wouldn't have hurt. Or a button in the same menu that lets me log out and disable the account.

And judging by the fan noise in my laptop the Discord app seems to be a heavier burden than my Firefox session with over 1000 tabs. Now at least it's not particularly slow, but I don't understand why I should use Discord unless I have to.

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by nottorp »

Amasuriel wrote: post #52

I’ve used discord for a long time and greatly prefer it to slack, teams and Mattermost (the three competitors I’ve used most often). Ironically the only think stopping me from strongly advocating for its adoption in business is that I’m already a user! Much like GitHub and to a lesser extent teams, they seem to not get the idea that I have different personas related to different parts of my life that absolutely shoul…

> Much like GitHub and to a lesser extent teams, they seem to not get the idea that I have different personas related to different parts of my life that absolutely should not mix.

This. It's pretty much impossible to run several identities on Discord. If we ever move work to it i want it separate from my gaming discords.

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by toxik »

cblconfederate wrote: post #114

There is a huge wave of transitions from reddit/ forums towards discord because it offers voice chat / image uploads for free. It's not gonna last at that, chat is a bad format compared to hierarchical replies, hard to search etc. Gaming is their niche but at some point games will want to stop bleeding their community to them. There is also a proliferation of communities which leads to a lot of activity because it's…

Block all non-NSFW? Are you saying it'll turn into PornHub but without the educational videos?

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by skybrian »

Amasuriel wrote: post #52

I’ve used discord for a long time and greatly prefer it to slack, teams and Mattermost (the three competitors I’ve used most often). Ironically the only think stopping me from strongly advocating for its adoption in business is that I’m already a user! Much like GitHub and to a lesser extent teams, they seem to not get the idea that I have different personas related to different parts of my life that absolutely shoul…

Do you mean on the web? You should use separate browser profiles for home and work.

(Speaking generally. I haven’t used Discord, but I don’t trust websites to keep multiple logins straight.)

Similarly for mobile, look into keeping apps separate at the OS level or carry two phones.

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by dudus »

tester34 wrote: post #111
hamburgerwah wrote: post #105

Discord is the classic freemium monopoly trap. They want to capture market share with a walled garden and once they do they will alter the terms to milk out every last drop of revenue they can before everyone jumps ship to the new new thing.

Could you name at least two other platforms that offer at least Decent chat (file sharing, emojis, support for code snippets), decent voice chat, decent streaming and supports PUSH2TALK button? and I personally prefer when it is not self-hosted due to DDoS risk, but it's not must have. and is e.g F/OSS? Because I'm unable to name and that's why I started using Discord

MSFT Teams, Slack, Google Chat. Hate as much as you want but there's virtually no difference in terms of capabilities among these players.

Re: Discord has won over gamers. Now it wants everybody else

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Post by lloydatkinson »

sadness3 wrote: post #93

I have a bad feeling about this. Discord essentially does one thing really well. I don't want to see it go down the way of so many chat platforms trying to be everything and becoming a bloated mess. Recently, they replaced the fun, gamery loading messages with something more "formal". Now it does it's one thing slightly less well. The first of many casualties, no doubt. It makes me despair of business models which re…

> I wish more businesses could be content to just get to the point where they are making money, and then just keep making that much money and being ok with that.

Blame execs and CEOs and boards for not being content

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