Why can't we just give steroids to people with muscular dystrophy?
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#2A different question. As someone who had to recover from Achilles tear and had to rebuild an atrophied calf muscle.
Why don’t we just give anabolic steroids to people if their muscles atrophied after wearing a cast?
Re: Why can't we just give steroids to people with muscular dystrophy?
#3A different question. As someone who had to recover from Achilles tear and had to rebuild an atrophied calf muscle. Why don’t we just give anabolic steroids to people if their muscles atrophied after wearing a cast?
or hgh
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#4Weren't some SARMs trialed on cancer patients that were having muscle wasting?
Re: Why can't we just give steroids to people with muscular dystrophy?
#5A different question. As someone who had to recover from Achilles tear and had to rebuild an atrophied calf muscle. Why don’t we just give anabolic steroids to people if their muscles atrophied after wearing a cast?
or hgh
Both are good. I think HGH is the more interesting compound for soft tissue injuries (ligaments and such). I do BJJ and I will for sure use both to recover any major injury I get after having researched it and seen how pro BJJ folks do it with really good results.
E: I should add both compounds can have severe side effects. Testosterone cycles can destroy your natural test production and HGH can have undesirable side effects. It makes things grow indiscriminately so you really have to do it with good medical advice. There are ways to prevent and manage the negative side effects.
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#6Interesting close-to-the-end note related to much of the medical research (on mice) that gets posted to HN: “The end result, in retrospect, was predictable: they successfully cured muscular dystrophy in mice, but not in humans.”
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#7Earlier quoted context omitted.
or hgh
Both are good. I think HGH is the more interesting compound for soft tissue injuries (ligaments and such). I do BJJ and I will for sure use both to recover any major injury I get after having researched it and seen how pro BJJ folks do it with really good results. E: I should add both compounds can have severe side effects. Testosterone cycles can destroy your natural test production and HGH can have undesirable side…
Ya. And it's probably worth pointing out that in the context of a recovery (say after a cast) that taking steriods and/or HGH will still require physical rehab, with even more doctor supervision. While it would probably lower the median time to "full recovery", it would probably also have significantly worse worst case outcomes, and still require significant work from the patient.
Edit: Oh and specifically for steroids - one of the things that -can- (dunno how frequent really) happen is that your muscle strength growth outgrows your connective tissue (such as your Achilles tendon) growth rate and you end up with more connective tissue damage. Maxing out your muscle growth rate might be the best strategy, especially when recovering from connective tissue damage.
Re: Why can't we just give steroids to people with muscular dystrophy?
#8A different question. As someone who had to recover from Achilles tear and had to rebuild an atrophied calf muscle. Why don’t we just give anabolic steroids to people if their muscles atrophied after wearing a cast?
Because your muscles, even in an atrophied state, will build back faster than the Achilles tear can heal (close) to 100%. Steroids don't make connective tissue grow faster/better/stronger.
Re: Why can't we just give steroids to people with muscular dystrophy?
#9A different question. As someone who had to recover from Achilles tear and had to rebuild an atrophied calf muscle. Why don’t we just give anabolic steroids to people if their muscles atrophied after wearing a cast?
In men, there are complications with your body’s natural testosterone production. If you inject test (the most basic anabolic steroid) then in order to maintain a sort of homeostasis, your body will lower its natural test production. The same goes for any other anabolic steroid, as they are all test derivatives.
As a result, when you end your cycle, your body needs to restart its natural test production. There can be a delay while this happens and it leads to unpleasant, though temporary, side effects, like weight gain and a loss of sexual appetite. This can be mitigated somewhat by taking estrogen regulators such as Clomid, which is a prescription drug for women.
Anyway, the upshot of all this is injecting steroids in men is sort of complicated. For your rehab scenario, your doctor would have to monitor your test and estrogen levels as you end your cycle. For moderate cycles like with your calf rehab, the dangers are vastly overblown in the media, but the short-term side effects can be bothersome.
Note that women don’t face these issues and indeed women can take convenient oral steroids like eg Winstrol without having to inject test to compensate for their natural production getting shut down, because they hardly have any natural production to begin with. Indeed, ethics aside, the arguments for women to do a very moderate cycle for your rehab scenario or just athletic performance are pretty strong.
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#10I don't really understand. Clearly the muscles work to some extent, so isn't making more a lot better than doing nothing?
> It’d be like if you had a construction project, and you found out that all of the wooden beams you were receiving from a supplier were rotten. Would you order more beams from that same supplier to fix the problem?
If my other option is shrugging and doing nothing and being sad as the house falls apart, then obviously yes I do. Quadruple up all the beams.