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Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by sudosysgen »

mbesto wrote: post #320
sudosysgen wrote: post #284

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Permanently glued batteries are not any smaller and they are no lighter than strapped batteries with easily removed adhesives. It's a move to prevent repair.

Disagree. You can see for yourself: Glued https://guide-images.cdn.ifixit.com/igi/noPvQ2CLs1jptX2p.med... Removal battery https://guide-images.cdn.ifixit.com/igi/btDJQp5CYXdILTOO.med... You get better battery performance, with higher CPU performance, better graphics, etc. etc. and save 8oz. in weight and nearly half the width. Moore's law has tradeoffs. I think you can make the conclusion yourself with the facts. EDI…

This is hilarious. You're actually comparing two different computers.

A pull tab does not weigh 8oz more than a dab of glue. I don't get why someone would try to argue as much.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by sudosysgen »

chrisseaton wrote: post #290
sudosysgen wrote: post #284

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Permanently glued batteries are not any smaller and they are no lighter than strapped batteries with easily removed adhesives. It's a move to prevent repair.

This conspiracy theory doesn't even make any sense. Guess who has to replace these batteries? Apple. Why would they make it harder for themselves without a good reason.

Apple choses which price to charge for a battery replacement. Their profit margin is whatever they choose unless other people are replacing it too.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by SilverRed »

gambiting wrote: post #197
GavinMcG wrote: post #168

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They do a pretty bad job of it if it's planned. My '12 MacBook Air works great (aside from needing a new battery) and I can still boot plenty of even older Macs, going back to a Quadra.

I'll do you one better - I still have a 2008 MacBook Pro that I use daily, it works fine. Also a 7 years old iPad Mini 2 that still gets security updates. Yes, planned obsolescence indeed.

I have Android tablets from 2014 and an ipad air 2 from 2014. The Android tablets haven't seen any updates since 2016 and are unusably slow while the iPad air 2 still gets the latest updates on day one with the brand new ipads and feels perfectly usable and sees daily use.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by chrisseaton »

sudosysgen wrote: post #402
chrisseaton wrote: post #290

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This conspiracy theory doesn't even make any sense. Guess who has to replace these batteries? Apple. Why would they make it harder for themselves without a good reason.

Apple choses which price to charge for a battery replacement. Their profit margin is whatever they choose unless other people are replacing it too.

But they also have to do the repairs. When they make it harder they increase their costs.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by eric_h »

eric_h wrote: post #367
acdha wrote: post #336

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> If Macs had the reliability of iPads and iPhones it would make more sense to not get the extended warranty. They do. People who don't have problems don't complain so you have to be careful basing your impression on what people feel motivated to mention.

it's true, ggp's claim of "20-30% chance you will have problems during those first years." is not based in data. if that was the rate, the cost of the extended warranty (apple care) would be much higher.

and further OP would never have been able to squeeze $10k of repairs/replacements out of an original $3k? outlay.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by SilverRed »

salamandersauce wrote: post #323
Bud wrote: post #228

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No, they do not, and that's an outrageous, silly, completely unsupported accusation. Apple also does not "intentionally throttle" older iPhones as a "feature of the update" for some sort of nefarious bullshit "planned obsolescence" reason. The opposite is true: Apple reduces the clock speed very very slightly on older iPhones, so that they can be used LONGER and have a LONGER service life. The alternative would be, w…

Because they didn't tell ANYBODY there were doing this. Did they give a pop up explaining that your phone was being throttled because the battery was degraded? No. Did they announce this "feature" at WWDC one year? No. Take your iPhone to a Genius complaining it was slow? Did they recommend you just replace the battery? No, they recommend you buy a new one. Part of the problem is that Apple stuck too small batteries…

The original hate on this was very much justified for the reasons you listed. But these days they now have prompts explaining this and how to resolve it as well as a battery status page you can check any time.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by sudosysgen »

chrisseaton wrote: post #309
SirZimzim wrote: post #298

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The idea is that due to the special repair it will be costly enough to the point where you will opt for buying a new laptop. It's $200 for a 2015 MacBook Pro for Apple to replace the battery. An aftermarket battery costs around $50 but it's tricky to install.

> The idea is that due to the special repair it will be costly enough But Apple has to replace the batteries and pay for it under their warranties, not you.

Batteries won't wear out in a year, and battery wear from normal use is not always covered by warranty. You're going to be paying for it in 90% of cases.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by 8bitsrule »

I bought an iMac from their store for $1400 (15 years ago). Invested big in their software. The HD was unreliable from day 1. Three months after their warranty expired, the screen started crapping out. Hundreds of people complained of it on their forums; the response was erasing the complaints. Two years later they admitted the problem.
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