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Post by jfoster »

dannyw wrote: post #321
jfoster wrote: post #88

They know their platform. I presume that prior to the announcement they had tried everything they could to continue BAU. The fact that they're able to now reverse the announcement makes me wonder what changed. Did they find a new banking or payout partner? Existing ones had a change of heart? Feels like there would be more to it than these possibilities.

Banks: if we ban onlyfans and other widely popular services, a decent number of people might actually turn into crypto and make our business extinct.

But OF didn't announce a move to crypto payments. They announced that they were wiping out a massive amount of their current business in order to stick with traditional payments.

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Post by SilverRed »

grecy wrote: post #848
SilverRed wrote: post #847

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You have to wonder though, is this because of a genuine gap in the market where people are yet to realize there is money to be made, or is there something else that these stories are leaving out. Is everyone in the industry making this much money? If you joined the industry today, how long would it take to start making good money?

You have to do a 4 year apprenticeship, during which time you won't make great money. Then you work for someone else and probably make $80k or $90k, then you start your own business. In terms of supply/demand Australians are extremely house proud and spend an insane amount of money on renovations, upgrades, etc, so all the trades are always slammed. Have been for 20 years.

Right so it seems somewhat similar to the profits you can make programming. Doesn't seem like a crazy get rich quick scheme, just years of hard work paying off.

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Post by tybit »

e40 wrote: post #686
Sebb767 wrote: post #505

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I've actually heard that quite often and it seems anecdotally true to me, but is there actually any study to prove this?

I had completely stopped downloading movies in 2018, and even for that year, I downloaded very few. I had been tapering off since 2015. These are real numbers from my NAS. I got a seedbox 2 months ago. This was my last straw: trying to rent some movie on Amazon and was told I had to subscribe to some service to watch it--there was no price to watch it once. The other things I did recently: 1) paused Google YTTV becau…

Why would you reply with an anecdote to someone specifically mentioning they’ve heard plenty of anecdotes but want data?

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Post by ascagnel_ »

TheRealDunkirk wrote: post #671
lobocinza wrote: post #635

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> Steam doesn't have a way to get old ROMs. Licensing hell.

Yeah, I'd settle for being able to buy No One Lives Forever and NOLF2 again on Steam, and those games are a lot younger.

Those games are an interesting case: it’s very likely Activision or Warner owns the rights for them, but since ownership could be in the hands of at least one other party and the games themselves aren’t popular nowadays, it isn’t financially worth it for them to do the work to verify it, even though people have tried to work with them in the past.

https://kotaku.com/the-sad-story-behind-a-dead-pc-game-that-...

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Post by Strom »

treesknees wrote: post #99
whymauri wrote: post #51

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it's pretty huge COVID hit recently graduated Gen-Z incredibly hard. There's huge groups that are/were unemployed and then there's huge groups who are sexually repressed due to quarantine. Across the whole world, too*. Many can easily make more than min wage, and in certain niches you probably don't even have to be 'conventionally beautiful' (sorry to use this term, but it's important I think) to make a living or sol…

Bhad Bhabie (cash me outside meme girl) made over $1M in 6 hours and said she could retire right now from the amount of money she has made off OF. And she's not doing "porn" or even posting fully nude photos. There's a big movement to gain a lot of followers on social media like TikTok and then redirect those followers to their $5/month OnlyFans. There are a lot of people making a living or at least significantly boo…

The top earners on OnlyFans make a lot of money indeed. There was recently a great interview with Amouranth [1] where she talked about her work.

Making $1.4 million per month and growing, has 4 employees, outsources every chore she can, posts content on all the social media platforms, and grinds 12 hour days on Twitch. [2] Doesn't spend most of the money, is learning about and trying out investments.

Interestingly she doesn't think that this type of top-heavy earnings situation will be sustainable, that the revenue will be more evenly distributed in the future. Even so, she considers her biggest competition to not be up-and-coming people, but instead existing influencers who might bring their audience to OnlyFans.

Definitely not a common success story, but it's pretty interesting how it is possible to have insane success when applying well-reasoned growth strategies and keeping up the grind.

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[1] https://investmenttalk.substack.com/p/confessions-of-an-only...

[2] In the linked interview she still says 8 hours for Twitch, but she has stepped it up since June.

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Post by AussieWog93 »

Sebb767 wrote: post #505
lawn wrote: post #429

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And also why piracy is increasing again as the movie/TV series space is becoming so fragmented.

I've actually heard that quite often and it seems anecdotally true to me, but is there actually any study to prove this?

Specifically for the example of Australians watching pirate rips of television programs, the percentage of us doing it dropped like a brick after Netflix launched here back in 2015 and has climbed back slightly since the fragmentation occurred.

It's nothing like the old days where we had to wait several weeks to watch Game of Thrones legally, though.

I don't have the exact numbers on hand, but from memory it was something that around 40% of us were doing back in 2013, had dropped to around 15-20% by 2018-2019, and is now at just above 20%.

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Post by hackinthebochs »

s1artibartfast wrote: post #589
moksly wrote: post #251

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Platforms like onlyfans sell two products. They sell safe/clean sex work to a variety of people who would never get into regular sex work. And they sell the feeling of mattering and a sense of human connection to people who suffer from loneliness. The only weird part is why the popular OnlyFans sex workers stay on the platform instead of moving to their own where they wouldn’t have to pay 20% to the platform. I’m sur…

>The only weird part is why the popular OnlyFans sex workers stay on the platform instead of moving to their own where they wouldn’t have to pay 20% to the platform. Discoverability. The same reason why Youtube content creators stick with the platform.

There is zero discoverability on onlyfans. The only people making money are those with a built in audience from other platforms.

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Post by Jetrel »

mattl wrote: post #693
joemi wrote: post #673

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CD, DVD and BD are all ROMs too. In a computer (and therefore videogame console) sense, these all are technically called CD-ROM, DVD-ROM, and BD-ROM.

I’d think of them as ISOs. But I can see why they’d be considered ROMs too.

Yeah. The storage medium changed so much, but the functional shipped object was still "a chunk of read-only memory containing the (probably) sole version of a game that got shipped to a market".

I too tend to think of ROMs as strictly images of non-volatile chips, alone, but it's interesting that when we're in computer emulation territory, it's really only the size that's different; a CD iso feeds into a PS emulator pretty much the same way a rom file feels into a SNES emulator - it's just a document.

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Post by tortarga »

dmarlow wrote: post #759
da_chicken wrote: post #405

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> People really do just want a one click solution for creating adult content, and consuming adult content. Once they know it's possible, people want a one click solution for anything. The subject being taboo has nothing to do with it. This is one reason why Youtube, Spotify, Steam and Netflix did such a good job combatting piracy for music, video games, and movies, while ROM sites are still a ubiquitous problem for 2…

It's funny how the wheel goes round and round. I loved it when Netflix had a lot more content, but now that each studio/production/company offers its own, it's ending up like nothing more than streaming a la carte and people are returning to piracy rather than spend hundreds across various streaming services (like cable/dish...).

Analyst Ben Evans frequently refers to cycle of bundling and unbundling of produtcts in tech.

Once the market becomes completely fragmented, a new service offering to bundle it back up will inevitably come along.

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Post by wernercd »

foolinaround wrote: post #368
wernercd wrote: post #242

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Add to that the fact that not all degrees are equal... there are plenty of "degree factories" that pump out useless people who don't know anything marketable. Having a degree is, as you've said, a requirement (I have a 2 year... I'm out on some jobs because of it)... Not having a degree is bad. Having a useless degree is worse as you now (generally) have the debt of a paper that means nothing.

> Having a useless degree Do you mean a degree in weird subjects, or from non-famous colleges?

Personally, I'd say "weird subjects" - or, if not weird, not marketable. The proverbial "basket weaving" degree or stuff like that. I think the more common "liberal arts" line as well.

https://blog.prepscholar.com/worst-college-majors

https://www.salary.com/passages/8-college-degrees-with-the-w...

https://www.ownyourownfuture.com/most-useless-degrees/

What I find interesting in these articles (and others) is CompSci is listed as a bad investment... oversaturation and what not.

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