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Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by wellthisisgreat »

robertlf wrote: post #127

As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…

I have an MBP2013 with Catalina and it’s been smooth sailing, good to know I shouldn’t upgrade to Mojave even

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by handrous »

amatecha wrote: post #319
jwdunne wrote: post #221

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exact same situation. Couldn’t upgrade macOS whatsoever and it was slow as anything. Whacked Ubuntu on there and it’s running as good as new, outside of slow disk reads.

Yeah! I actually dropped an old secondhand SSD in mine and it makes a huge difference. You'd never guess the machine is over a decade old other than the slightly bulkier form-factor and mediocre resolution, haha (and in fact I actually really like the keyboard compared to newer models!)

The newer butterfly keyboards got all the bad press (for good reason) but a while back I had to use one of the early aluminum models from when they were still thick enough to hold disc drives, for the first time in many years, and damn, I'd forgotten just how much worse the original slim driveless models' keyboards were, than those. Those were basically perfect, for a laptop.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by wellthisisgreat »

dudul wrote: post #216
robertlf wrote: post #127

As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…

That's funny I recently upgraded a 2013 mbp and it's a bit faster now.

To Big Sur?

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by singhrac »

zzt123 wrote: post #42

I have a gripe with every Macbook Pro I've owned, and I've owned 4 of them over the last 10 years. They all lag when I type. I hit a key, and it takes a while before it shows up on screen. The effect is at its worst in Safari, but it shows up most everywhere else as well. Sometimes, I'll type a few letters or even words before they start showing up. Doesn't matter if I wipe the machine and reinstall, and Apple has ne…

This exact issue shows up when I type in Terminal, and it makes me annoyed every time.

I used to have this on my work computer, and through some debugging tools that are not available publically or on macOS, I was able to track it down to my shell spawning a git process very frequently; until you mentioned this I suspected that this was the case on my MBP as well.

Could it be that this is just generally true? I don't remember this on my 2014 MBP, just my new 2019 16" MBP. Supposedly the latter is a more powerful machine.

It's gotten so bad that I frequently consider wiping my computer and seeing whether it'll be fixed with a new environment.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by nicholasjarr »

My 2017 MBP with Touchbar had keyboard issues (some keys popped out; replaced the whole keyboard), battery problems (it expanded and I replaced it, but it is expanding again), and screen issues (pretty sure is a thermal issue; after some hours of use the bottom of the screen started to went black to the point of being impossible to use and I had to stop using it and wait some hours to the black bars disappear). Pretty sure this is my last MBP.

Edit: typo

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by ksec »

>2017-06-07 - Purchased my First MacBook Pro

>2017-07-31 - Lemon Unit >Unfortunately, since day one, my laptop was randomly freezing and getting random kernel panics.

Memory issues? Welcome to onboard memory.

>2017-08-19 - First Complete Replacement >I was able to convince them to give me a brand new unit instead. Phew!

Only because the author bought Apple Care. Without it the standard procedure were to fix it.

>2017-10-12 - Enter Key Stopped Working

Key stopped working? Oh people have been complaining since 2016. And Macrumors and 9to5Mac Apple apologist still to this day call it a minor issue that blown out of proportion. And the whole issue only got noticed once a writer wrote a hit piece and YouTuber reporting similar issues which their video and clips going in total 20M+ views. i.e Apple only acted when the PR was bad enough. Sounds familiar?

>2017-11-23 - Sleep Issues and Crashes >2018-01-13 - Overheating and Pink Screen

Quite common if you watch Louis Rossmann Channel. And the Screen was the cable being too short an inflexible.

>2018-02-14 - Logic Board Replacement

>2018-04-27 - Broken Speaker

Again, a well known problem on MacBook since even before the 2016 MacBook. A blown speaker. What is strange is that Logic Board replacement usually replace the speaker as well.

>2018-06-11 - Fan and Top-Case Replacement

And the Fan and Top Case replacement dont actually replace the speaker. ( In the usual sense )

>2018-08-02 - Second Complete Replacement

Again thanks to Apple Care.

>2018-09-20 - Migrating my AppleCare Protection Plan

>However, Apple said that I could instead buy a new plan on the new laptop, and get a refund for my unused period on my old laptop.

That is because you now get to buy an additional two year Apple Care. Welcome to Services Revenue era.

>2019-03-23 - Exploded USB Ports

Exploded USB-C / Thunderbolt Ports? Hello? This was so common I would even consider it a flaw in design. Compared to Magsafe which has 0.00000001% of this happening, HN still prefer to use USB-C. But every time I mentioned this on HN I got downvoted into oblivion. As if it didn't happen.

>2019-08-19 - Sticky Keys

That was actually under the Apple Keyboard replacement programme. Not Apple Care.

>2021-08-19 - AppleCare Protection Plan Expired!

Imagine if you didn't have Apple Care?

>As much as I don’t want to buy another Mac in the future, I have a feeling that I probably will. I’m eager to try out the 2nd generation M1 macs when they eventually get released.

There simply isn't another company competing with Apple. So despite all of its flaws, Apple is still one of the best if not the best. That is the sad state we are in inside the PC industry.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by mixedCase »

riffic wrote: post #292
spullara wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To make the computer smaller and lighter.

I'd prefer a system that was a bit more durable and also put the consumables in a place where they were easily accessed. we've reached the point where all advantages to devices being smaller and lighter are diminished returns.

If you care about maintainability, you're just not the market Macbooks are optimized for.

While most brand-new laptops have unfortunately dropped externally removable batteries altogether, you can still find plenty that have internal user-replaceable ones.

At home I have a work-provided Dell Latitude, a Thinkpad T470 my SO uses and my own Thinkpad T490. Very happy with all of them 'cept mine has a shitty screen that I'm going to replace at some point.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by dariosalvi78 »

More than the support, what's impressive is that what is considered a high-end product needs so much assistance in 4 years. I have changed 3 MacBook pros in the past 5 years, all broken beyond the possibility of use, and because of defects. In contrast, the cheapest laptop I have bought, an EeePC lasted more than 10 years.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by ksec »

robertlf wrote: post #127

As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…

If you dont upgrade the OS they cant claim their installation rate and push their new API along with other API depreciation. So generally speaking I am pro OS upgrade. But I do think they somehow turn off certain optimisation for older devices. It is the same with iPhone as well. i.e New OS is only optimised for current set / latest devices.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by amatecha »

handrous wrote: post #342
amatecha wrote: post #319

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah! I actually dropped an old secondhand SSD in mine and it makes a huge difference. You'd never guess the machine is over a decade old other than the slightly bulkier form-factor and mediocre resolution, haha (and in fact I actually really like the keyboard compared to newer models!)

The newer butterfly keyboards got all the bad press (for good reason) but a while back I had to use one of the early aluminum models from when they were still thick enough to hold disc drives, for the first time in many years, and damn, I'd forgotten just how much worse the original slim driveless models' keyboards were, than those. Those were basically perfect, for a laptop.

Yeah that's exactly what this 2009 model is, the nice thick keys that actually move quite some distance when you press them. So satisfying and tactile! Now when I try the latest MacBooks in an Apple Store it's like typing on nothing. Very strange feeling.
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