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Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by mfarr »

zzt123 wrote: post #42

I have a gripe with every Macbook Pro I've owned, and I've owned 4 of them over the last 10 years. They all lag when I type. I hit a key, and it takes a while before it shows up on screen. The effect is at its worst in Safari, but it shows up most everywhere else as well. Sometimes, I'll type a few letters or even words before they start showing up. Doesn't matter if I wipe the machine and reinstall, and Apple has ne…

I've noticed the same thing on my 2019 16". In my case, at least, it seems to happen only when the integrated GPU is in use. If I force the discrete GPU to be used, it doesn't happen. I've been able to reproduce this on fresh installs with no third party apps installed or running.

It's incredibly frustrating, and just one more thing to add to the pile of annoyances that I have with Apple products lately.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by tistoon »

fouc wrote: post #316
robertlf wrote: post #127

As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…

You should downgrade it back to MacOS 10.x version range. I'm still on 10.13 myself, I don't feel any strong urges to upgrade to Mojave or Catalina. If I stopped using homebrew and started using macports or pkgsrc I'd probably be even less bothered by needing to upgrade. (homebrew is pretty shitty with older OSes) I'm also on a 2015 MBP that's still going strong. It's snappy and I'm happy. I upgraded the SSD last yea…

I would like to upgrade my disk while keeping the OS version (clone?). Could you please tell me how did you do?

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by salamandersauce »

Bud wrote: post #228
everyone wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems like they intentionally throttle older models as a feature of the update.. They do it on their phones at least. https://www.phonearena.com/news/how-to-make-iphone-faster_id...

No, they do not, and that's an outrageous, silly, completely unsupported accusation. Apple also does not "intentionally throttle" older iPhones as a "feature of the update" for some sort of nefarious bullshit "planned obsolescence" reason. The opposite is true: Apple reduces the clock speed very very slightly on older iPhones, so that they can be used LONGER and have a LONGER service life. The alternative would be, w…

Because they didn't tell ANYBODY there were doing this. Did they give a pop up explaining that your phone was being throttled because the battery was degraded? No. Did they announce this "feature" at WWDC one year? No. Take your iPhone to a Genius complaining it was slow? Did they recommend you just replace the battery? No, they recommend you buy a new one.

Part of the problem is that Apple stuck too small batteries in their devices for years so they degraded fast. They KNEW they were making the phone slow for users in 2-3 years. Having a slow phone IMO is more of push to replace a phone than a bit worse battery life.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by bialpio »

lostlogin wrote: post #256
0xy wrote: post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're forgetting about the high sales tax of 15% in NZ. That explains the vast majority of the price difference.

There is zero sales tax on US Apple store sales? Where is tax paid? I certainly have missed that.

Sales tax can vary depending on state (among other things), see for example Oregon where it's 0%, vs Washington, where it's 6.5% (and my jurisdiction adds additional couple percent for a total of ~10%).

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by theonlybutlet »

deltarholamda wrote: post #133
theonlybutlet wrote: post #57

Don't know what they're like these days but my 2011 Lenovo Thinkpad works great! Solid laptop, replaced the keyboard once aside from that still going strong.

Maybe it has something to do with the year 2011. My 2011 Macbook Pro 13" is still alive and kicking. With max 16GB RAM and replacing the spinning rust with an SSD, it's remarkably nimble as well. It's done a lot of travelling, and I've replaced the battery 3 times due to battery life going down too far. I finally upgraded to an M1 Macbook Air, which is also really nice, but the number of miles on that old axe was imp…

That's great, think my next move will be the M1 MacBook. Perhaps cliché but may be worth trying Linux on there now, elementary OS or something, everyone mostly just use the browser anyway.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by ryneandal »

jppope wrote: post #146
robertlf wrote: post #127

As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…

Apple is the master of planned obsolescence.

I disagree. My family's cost of electronics plummeted when I switched all of us to iOS. This is due to longer device lifetime and fewer broken devices.

Anecdotal for sure, but my kids and most Android devices lead to numerous broken electronics, be it screen, micro USB charging port issues, or detached SMDs. My 5 year old going into Kindergarten has been merciless to his iPad Mini and it is still trucking along, after multiple years. My OG iPad Pro is still my daily driver for media consumption and is going on six years old.

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Post by nielsole »

reddit_clone wrote: post #106
zzt123 wrote: post #42

I have a gripe with every Macbook Pro I've owned, and I've owned 4 of them over the last 10 years. They all lag when I type. I hit a key, and it takes a while before it shows up on screen. The effect is at its worst in Safari, but it shows up most everywhere else as well. Sometimes, I'll type a few letters or even words before they start showing up. Doesn't matter if I wipe the machine and reinstall, and Apple has ne…

I have a strange lag problem too. My CapsLock key (mapped to Esc because I am a Doom Emacs User) gets really slow over days. Like in ~4 seconds to register. A reboot fixed the delay. But it degrades again. Happened twice. Thankfully, after the last reboot, it seems to be holding. Last year MBP running Big Sur.

For me it's the '0' key on my numpad on an external keyboard. Takes up to 500ms to be scanned. All other keys have input lag, but are scanned instantly. Keyboard works flawless on Linux. Really weird. Wondering if the '0'key is somehow scanned in software on Mac.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by fouc »

tistoon wrote: post #322
fouc wrote: post #316

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You should downgrade it back to MacOS 10.x version range. I'm still on 10.13 myself, I don't feel any strong urges to upgrade to Mojave or Catalina. If I stopped using homebrew and started using macports or pkgsrc I'd probably be even less bothered by needing to upgrade. (homebrew is pretty shitty with older OSes) I'm also on a 2015 MBP that's still going strong. It's snappy and I'm happy. I upgraded the SSD last yea…

I would like to upgrade my disk while keeping the OS version (clone?). Could you please tell me how did you do?

I cloned to a USB drive, swapped the SSDs, and then booted up with the USB drive, and cloned back to the new SSD.

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You will need an NVMe SSD adapter similar to this https://www.amazon.com/Sintech-Adapter-Upgrade-2013-2015-Mac...

There's a whole thread writeup here: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/upgrading-2013-2014-mac...

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You can also download old versions of MacOS installers. I forget the link to the easier scripts/installers, there's a High Sierra one at http://dosdude1.com/highsierra/

Personally I ended up using ./installinstallmacos.py from https://github.com/munki/macadmin-scripts to grab the catalog contents

and then temporarily blocked swcdn.apple.com in /etc/hosts,

and then served the /content/ directory so that swcdn.apple.com/content/ was pointed at 127.0.0.1/content (I used python here in the parent directory of /content/) > sudo python -m SimpleHTTPServer 80

and then I opened the High Sierra MacOS app store specific link to make it download & assemble the .dmg file properly

Open in Safari to ensure it launches App Store https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/macos-high-sierra/id12462847...

Can use the same approach to grab other versions of MacOS downloaders from apple too if you look up the app store links for it and then serve the catalog locally I guess.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Post by trangus_1985 »

I bought a new high end thinkpad (i forget, it was a few years ago). The display was clearly defective, serious dark spots. Lenovo held a firm line that I would have to send it in and wait 3 weeks for a replacement. New out of the box.

They tried to change their tune when I asked for a refund but I was finished dealing with their support "quality" - imagine the level of support that would happen if something broke outside of the return period!

Anyways, I bought a Razer blade, and got some of the worst support in my life. I actually got accused of lying on the phone by the support agent!

My next laptop will probably be a dell or surface - their in house repair service is supposedly extremely good.

> At first, Apple informed me that they couldn’t replace the unit and would instead offer to repair it. However, considering I had almost just received it, and experienced issues from day one, I was able to convince them to give me a brand new unit instead.

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