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My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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I've never quite seen a repair history like this! Does your MacBook get crushed inside of bag/backpack often? Subject to unusually high temperatures, cold, or sunlight? Any weird power issues at your home? Very curious :D Thule's Gauntlet cases are great but in your case, maybe a Pelican laptop box could work too.

Haha, nope. It's perfectly fine and undamaged. I work remote a lot, coffee shops, cafes, coworking spaces, airplanes. So it moves a lot. No unusually high temperatures. I always use a soft case when I put it in my backpack for extra protection. Heat might be an issue though, especially if the laptop is hot and goes into my backpack directly. Maybe I should consider a Pelican case now that my APP has expired... and ma…

Airplanes man… my 15” MBP 2015 would always make this case cracking sound when the plane reached a specific altitude. It had some battery swell, not noticeable.

Scared the shit out of me, every time.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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I had a macbook pro 2013 which has never had any issue and still going strong as my primary jenkins worker node. the controller node is in cloud.

After that I had 3 macbook pro 2017-2018 all with keyboard, screen and power issue. I went on a M1 and it has been great so far.

I see no reason to use a Mac unless I have to do iOS/Mac OS works. I hope for day where we can do Mac dev on Linux at that point I don't have to deal with this whole Mac fiesta anymore

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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I have a gripe with every Macbook Pro I've owned, and I've owned 4 of them over the last 10 years. They all lag when I type. I hit a key, and it takes a while before it shows up on screen. The effect is at its worst in Safari, but it shows up most everywhere else as well. Sometimes, I'll type a few letters or even words before they start showing up. Doesn't matter if I wipe the machine and reinstall, and Apple has ne…

I have a strange lag problem too. My CapsLock key (mapped to Esc because I am a Doom Emacs User) gets really slow over days. Like in ~4 seconds to register. A reboot fixed the delay. But it degrades again. Happened twice. Thankfully, after the last reboot, it seems to be holding. Last year MBP running Big Sur.

I was running an MBP for work and running Doom Emacs got me the exact same issue, that would spread to everything. Luckily I was up for a new machine before things got to bad and on the new Dell Percision I haven't had any issues (after I installed Ubuntu on it)

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…

If you have an Apple store near by they'll set it up for dual boot. If you don't mind do it yourself partition and install the installer to thumb drive. I don't condone piracy but you can download the old installers(get creative) md5 checksum it and simply reinstall the old OS. I am still running a 2012 macbook pro for video editing with final cut pro.

You don't really have to pirate anything. Apple provides a guide for creating USB installers. Used it to bring my 2012 Mini back to Mojave recently.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201372

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…

My understanding is that Sceptre/Meltdown mitigations significantly slow processors due to reduced speculative execution, and perhaps more integrity tests against attacks.

That's something that's near-universal across AMD64 / Intel architectures, regardless of OS.

https://www.howtogeek.com/339559/how-to-stop-the-meltdown-an...

One view is to blame the mitigations.

Another is to recognise that the previous performance was itself a mirage, created by ignoring the risks presented by speculative execution (which had been long voiced, and long ignored by major CPU vendors).

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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I refuse to accept that as an answer as to why the battery is glued in. It's just laziness by apple, there's is literally zero reason to use glue to hold the battery, and it means that if you want to ever replace it yourself you end up looking at a 50-steps long guide on ifixit where one of them is pouring solvent behind the battery - it's insane. Just have a system of tabs holding the battery packs in place, glue is…

No, it's not laziness. Nothing about the internal design of the Mac is due to "laziness". Apple has clearly decided that the battery is better held in place by adhesive than by a "system of tabs". This could easily be for durability or safety reasons. It's a big, big problem if a battery gets damaged. If your argument is that the replacement process has too many steps, this argument fails: you'd save at most one step…

Apple batteries are glued for two reasons:

  - The aluminium laptop case is part of the battery.  In the old days there was a plastic case/shell around the battery cells. Now the laptop case is that shell.

  - It allows them to make the laptops thinner. When you are talking about the need to save millimeters here and there in order to have a very thin total design then you need to remove screws, tabs and stuff that pads up space.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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post #220

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No, it's not laziness. Nothing about the internal design of the Mac is due to "laziness". Apple has clearly decided that the battery is better held in place by adhesive than by a "system of tabs". This could easily be for durability or safety reasons. It's a big, big problem if a battery gets damaged. If your argument is that the replacement process has too many steps, this argument fails: you'd save at most one step…

Apple batteries are glued for two reasons: - The aluminium laptop case is part of the battery. In the old days there was a plastic case/shell around the battery cells. Now the laptop case is that shell. - It allows them to make the laptops thinner. When you are talking about the need to save millimeters here and there in order to have a very thin total design then you need to remove screws, tabs and stuff that pads u…

Planned obsolescence and user hostility, got it.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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Permanently glued batteries are not any smaller and they are no lighter than strapped batteries with easily removed adhesives. It's a move to prevent repair.

This conspiracy theory doesn't even make any sense. Guess who has to replace these batteries? Apple. Why would they make it harder for themselves without a good reason.

What if I want to go to an independent repair shop to change my battery? Or even do it myself.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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This conspiracy theory doesn't even make any sense. Guess who has to replace these batteries? Apple. Why would they make it harder for themselves without a good reason.

The idea is that due to the special repair it will be costly enough to the point where you will opt for buying a new laptop. It's $200 for a 2015 MacBook Pro for Apple to replace the battery. An aftermarket battery costs around $50 but it's tricky to install.

> The idea is that due to the special repair it will be costly enough

But Apple has to replace the batteries and pay for it under their warranties, not you.

Re: My MacBook Pro had over 10k USD in repairs

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As long as we're having a big bitch-fest here, I'll throw in my $.02. Other than expanding batteries, my laptops have generally been trouble-free. But the problem I do have is that the older my MBP, the slower it becomes when I upgrade the OS. When I upgraded my 2015 to Big Sur last year, it essentially became unusable because it ran so slowly. It now sits in my closet. Apple should stop nagging you to upgrade the OS…

Every MacBook I’ve ever owned has ended up with a swollen battery
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