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Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by mdoms » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 7:27 PM UTC

boublepop wrote: post #356

In reality they always knew it made no sense, but the amount of free PR they got from every major news outlet across the world posting essentially: “Popular pornographic app only available for a short while!” Is absolutely insane, and made the full circus with it all. It’s like Red Bull leaning into the “dangerous drink” coverage.

I don't think this was a PR stunt. OF relies on the talent to bring viewers, so publicly signaling to your talent "your job here is not safe, you should explore other options" seems far too risky a move to make intentionally.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by newbamboo » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 7:30 PM UTC

rootsudo wrote: post #36

My biggest shock was how much "PR" was generated on Reddit, and how many sexworkers really do use the platform. I knew it was a thing, I knew of the memes, but to see both sides in arms over a company vs branding, creating their own website and content - and vanity domain as well. People really do just want a one click solution for creating adult content, and consuming adult content. And the memes, I think they're pr…

It is in keeping with the general theme of things.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by munk-a » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 7:30 PM UTC

funnyThing7 wrote: post #714

munk-a wrote: post #628

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's never been more legal than it is today - it's not like in 1997 KaZaA and Morpheus were bastions of legal activity.

For a very long time in the Netherlands you could download movies and music from unauthorized sources, as you were indirectly paying content creators because of “copy taxes” on data drives, burnable discs etc. It was sort of a loophole but it was completely legal. Those were the days. Then suddenly the highest court disallowed it. Guess what, we still pay the copy tax. Clarification: The copy tax was meant to compens…

Ah sorry yes - my comment was made from an American/Canadian perspective - I know that other parts of the world have been significantly more progressive in the past.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by bryanrasmussen » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 7:31 PM UTC

tacLog wrote: post #674

Sebb767 wrote: post #505

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've actually heard that quite often and it seems anecdotally true to me, but is there actually any study to prove this?

I found this site from the torrentfreak link below and thought it was pretty cool. https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com/en/stat/annual/2021 If you flip thru the years at least the top movies in 2018 have more downloads than the top movies in 2021. I think that can somewhat safely answer your questions. EDIT: WRONG because as a comment points out below older movies also might just have been downloaded more over time. From…

Yeah but if most people have services - I have three - then the most popular movies for that year will be on all the services almost. Endgame has been on all my services at some point over the last couple years. I've seen it probably 20+ times. Probably also the people who are most likely to want to watch Endgame have services.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by globular-toast » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 7:33 PM UTC

This was actually the top story on the BBC Radio 1 news this afternoon. I'd never, not once, heard OnlyFans mentioned outside of niche internet communities before today. The "ban" was an excellent move by the marketing department.

I have a really bad feeling about further popularisation of porn, though. This is going to be so, so bad for society.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by Seattle3503 » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 7:36 PM UTC

Crontab wrote: post #314

rootsudo wrote: post #36

My biggest shock was how much "PR" was generated on Reddit, and how many sexworkers really do use the platform. I knew it was a thing, I knew of the memes, but to see both sides in arms over a company vs branding, creating their own website and content - and vanity domain as well. People really do just want a one click solution for creating adult content, and consuming adult content. And the memes, I think they're pr…

I've noticed that a large portion of women submitting in the /r/Gonewild subreddit have an OF these days.

/r/gonewild is actually one of the few subreddits that prohibits posts from sellers. But every subreddit that doesn't outright prohibit sellers is flooded with them. The OF girls all got kicked off of Facebook, Instagram, Snapshot, etc... Reddit is comparatively more friendly to sex workers as far as site wide policy goes.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by stale2002 » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 7:38 PM UTC

isoskeles wrote: post #342

mumblemumble wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We should try to read each others' comments in the most charitable light possible. In this case, I think the friendly way to interpret that comment is as an attempt to anticipate and pre-empt a very common and harmful misconception about sex workers.

It comes off as strange to me because it doesn’t make a difference if a “sex worker” is intelligent or not. And this goes for any job that doesn’t require brilliance. Am I supposed to feel better for, more accepting of, more sympathetic to, etc. a person because of their intellect? And if I have a problem with sex work, it has nothing to do with how I perceive the intellect of the workers, so the pre-empting seems un…

Pointing out that someone is intelligent is useful, in this case, as a general "well, this can happen to anyone" kind of comment, and to break stereotypes about how sex workers all fit some narrow stereotype.

That is important to point out, as sometimes people generalize or attack people, unfairly, based on these things.

Also, don't be so mad. It comes off as bad faith.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by FalconSensei » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 7:38 PM UTC

pacbard wrote: post #82

haasted wrote: post #30

Isn't "OnlyFans without sexual content" basically Patreon?

I guess they offer similar subscription services but it seems to me (at least) that they serve completely different niches. For example, if a content creator says "check out my OnlyFans for subscriber-only content" versus "check out my Patreon for subscriber-only content", I would expect that they are selling completely different things. Another parallel could be comparing HomeDepot and HobbyLobby. Both stores sell y…

> For example, if a content creator says "check out my OnlyFans for subscriber-only content" versus "check out my Patreon for subscriber-only content", I would expect that they are selling completely different things.

So, OF without p0rn is basically Patreon

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by bcheung » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 7:42 PM UTC

throwawaylolx wrote: post #721

bcheung wrote: post #692

The damage is already done. I was doing a photoshoot at my house with 2 models that have OnlyFans accounts. When the news hit they literally signed up for other platforms within an hour. The other platforms are capitalizing on the news and finding ways to make migration to their platform as easy as possible.

So now they'll come back because OF still has the larger community.

I think they may stick around because it has the user base and why not, they are already making money so no point giving that up.

But now models will diversify across multiple platforms because the writing is on the wall. They may lose their income at any point so they are going to have backups.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by Freak_NL » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 7:42 PM UTC

tacLog wrote: post #674

Sebb767 wrote: post #505

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've actually heard that quite often and it seems anecdotally true to me, but is there actually any study to prove this?

I found this site from the torrentfreak link below and thought it was pretty cool. https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com/en/stat/annual/2021 If you flip thru the years at least the top movies in 2018 have more downloads than the top movies in 2021. I think that can somewhat safely answer your questions. EDIT: WRONG because as a comment points out below older movies also might just have been downloaded more over time. From…

A friend who torrents these things just checked for me and saw well over a 100,000 'snatches' for that Avengers flick on just one private torrent tracker.

So yeah, not 2,890. Think millions.