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The rightsholder wants to be able to sell the game to you again on a new platform to keep collecting revenue off it

If that's the motivation, it's pretty misguided, since it is a completely different motivation to buy. I buy (or pirate if I can't) the old games for nostalgia fun, not so much for the gameplay or graphics. I then also buy the new game for the modern experience & gameplay.

They want to have the option to resell you the exact same game emulated on the new systems too, see Wii Virtual Console I think it was called, and NES classic system, all of those.

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Why not paypal? I remember in the early 2000s even the most dusty geocities sites having paypal buttons.

Their policy prohibits "certain sexually oriented materials or services". https://www.paypal.com/en/webapps/mpp/ua/acceptableuse-full

I feel like you could just sell an access code that allows you to download content rather than the content itself and be perfectly within paypals acceptable use policies.

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Genius two-step marketing. People who knew nothing about OnlyFans: “Hmm, this company I’ve never heard of is making the news for banning explicit sexual content.” A few days later, on several mainstream reporting channels, “Just kidding, OnlyFans will continue to have steamy hot explicit sexual content available for a low, low monthly price.”

In fact I subbed one couple on OF just few days ago because I thought OF was going to kick them out and I wanted the content before that happened. Anecdotal, I know, but I wonder how many other people did the same.

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If anything I thought maybe it was a publicity stunt.

They do viral marketing all the time. Go to any meme page and even some newspapers and you'll find "wow this mother who has an only fans is causing trouble at her school because other Dad's have been caught out!!! Dads! sign up here" Watching people fall for their marketing is like being in a state of depression with the human race.

No it really does happen its just not so common among older people, I know people who got in trouble with their gf because they were caught subscribing to the OF of some other girl they both knew. Only half the appeal is random people selling nudes, the other half is the hot chick from your high school class selling them.

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A question to you entrepreneurial types. Why does an globally established and growing company with a proven business model want to raise a billion dollar investment? It's money they'll have to pay back with interest and I assume there would be other strings attached (like the high risk implied by the planned move that was now canceled). How is possibly better than organic growth at this point where they are probably…

A bit of a tangent, but the dynamics in high-value investment is quite the opposite. You have people with lots of money (they do exist) who don't have anything to do with that money. They want to make it grow, and often are paid or otherwise incentivized to make it grow, but it's kinda hard to find a way of making 1 billion make you 100 million in a couple of years, without doing micromanagement for 1000 different 1-…

can you explain this a bit more? Why wouldn't "invest in an index fund" be the obvious alternative to micromanaging thousands of investments?

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And also why piracy is increasing again as the movie/TV series space is becoming so fragmented.

I've actually heard that quite often and it seems anecdotally true to me, but is there actually any study to prove this?

I had completely stopped downloading movies in 2018, and even for that year, I downloaded very few. I had been tapering off since 2015. These are real numbers from my NAS. I got a seedbox 2 months ago. This was my last straw: trying to rent some movie on Amazon and was told I had to subscribe to some service to watch it--there was no price to watch it once.

The other things I did recently: 1) paused Google YTTV because NBA season was over 2) canceled Netflix because I never watch it

I've been watching content (some of it very old, like The Larry Sanders Show) on HBO Max, but the app on Roku is *SO HORRIBLE* I'd rather pirate content and watch it on PLeX.

The Amazon app/UI is *HORRIBLE*, too. Like multiple seasons are separate items? WTF. I'll download series I have access to on Amazon just to avoid that app.

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I'm honestly surprised the market forces are strong enough that the banks have to care about the bad PR at all Nobody wants to change banks even when it affects them directly. How many people are going to change banks out of principle? I guess some Gen Zers might be motivated not to pick Chase as their first bank?

I think a factor that they may be concerned about is that there is a large userbase that is spending a lot of money on OF and that they may very well all just move to BTC or some other cryptocurrency based solution to exchanging money. And once that happens, you have a younger generation that is more comfortable dabbling in making financial transactions without the banks being involved.

This just sounds like wishful thinking from cryptocurrency enthusiasts. There is no precedent of this happening, so I doubt they were so terrified about a completely hypothetical scenario.

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My biggest shock was how much "PR" was generated on Reddit, and how many sexworkers really do use the platform. I knew it was a thing, I knew of the memes, but to see both sides in arms over a company vs branding, creating their own website and content - and vanity domain as well. People really do just want a one click solution for creating adult content, and consuming adult content. And the memes, I think they're pr…

I think OF has also become a one-click outlet for nontraditional sex workers, e.g., those who wouldn't otherwise have done this type of stuff. From what I've read OF has even more "amateurs" than platforms like MyFreeCams.

Part of the reason they've gotten so much heat is because of cases of underage girls selling photos on that site for some time before they're caught. I don't know if they've found a solution to that problem or just come to some agreement with their payment processors

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My understanding was that they were being cut off by payment processors and banks and that drove the decision. Was this resolved?

There are US laws that I can’t remember the names of which make financial institutions legally responsible (probably bad English) for crimes that happen on platforms they sell their services to. So VISA could be fined for any trafficking that happen on OnlyFans. This is also why Pronhub had to remove almost all their videos if they wanted to keep credit card services. As an European I’m a fan of laws that make platfo…

Facebook reports over one million(!!!) images of child sexual abuse on their platform per year, and that's only the stuff that they identify and find. Clearly it's a platform where a huge amount of illegal materials are being exchanged, yet Visa and MasterCard happily keep Facebook as a client.

>>but there is no denying that vetting that every OnlyFan sexworker is a task they can’t likely perform easily.

Just make every performer submit a valid ID to have an account, if my mobile provider can ask for that, why not OF?

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Coinbase (and other financial services) do a pretty good job of requiring photo id on signup; I don't know what OF procedure is, but there's definitly precedent.

Sex crimes are often strict liability. You violate the law whether you know or even meant to perform the act or not. For instance, Cody Wilson was sentenced for statutory rape after a sexual encounter with an individual who had a fake ID that stated they were 18, looked 18, and stated they were 18.

That sounds insane and like a failing of a justice system.
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