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White this is temporarily great news for sex workers, its worth keeping a couple things in mind: This would seem to be in large part an extension of the wider religious right and groups similar to the Moral Majority's push from previous decades to remove sexuality or "objectional content" from the public sphere. This recent OnlyFans (and PornHub) pressure were driven in large part by pressure from Exodus Cry and NCOS…

How much of a role did these groups play in anyone’s decision making here? I’ve never gotten the impression that either of these groups to be especially influential outside of getting congressional reps to occasionally sponsor symbolic legislative fights. Like you can run all the media that you want but ultimately banning porn from the internet is a pretty quixotic endeavor and the stakeholders in OF know this. Where…

I think what the sibling to this comment has brought up is important to understand.

These groups are entirely trying to alter the definition of “sex trafficking.” Or rather, attempting to make the phrase so broad as to be meaningless.

Sex trafficking brings in images of humans being thrown into a container against their will, shipped overseas in darkness, and then maybe drugged up and pimped out in hidden shady backstreet houses.

These groups like Exodus Cry and NCOSE are attempting to conflate that above image with grown and often well educated people who are choosing to be their own bosses.

You can see this conflation all over their websites and in many of their press releases.

How much of an influence did they have in this and the pornhub debacle? I mean, i don’t know how we could accurately measure this. But it would appear their pressure campaigns are heavily funded, very active, and then during those campaigns many of their goals were met. So I guess it’s up to you to decide how much influence they really played.

My point is simply for us to notice this now.

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Bhad Bhabie (cash me outside meme girl) made over $1M in 6 hours and said she could retire right now from the amount of money she has made off OF. And she's not doing "porn" or even posting fully nude photos. There's a big movement to gain a lot of followers on social media like TikTok and then redirect those followers to their $5/month OnlyFans. There are a lot of people making a living or at least significantly boo…

OF is probably similar to Etsy, where the 95th percentile make millions and the median income is $0.

OF is significantly different from other social media in that the adult market has a lot of really weird market factors that make even new market participants able to access significant revenue. Most OF people aren't making 10 million, but it's better to compare OF to patreon where most small users are still pulling in a few hundred dollars a month at least - and that's a pretty significant amount if you've graduated from school into a pandemic market.

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"ROM sites are still a ubiquitous problem for 20 year old consoles. Youtube, Spotify, Steam and Netflix made content easy to get. There's no equivalent for most ROMs, so they're still widely pirated." The only example I can think of is Nintendo Online. You can play select NES and SNES games on the Switch with a N.O. subscription. I collect ROMs, I've got damned near 4Tb worth. I collect for two reasons: 1. Archiving…

It's ridiculous that games like super smash bros are the same price whether you buy them new on a switch or used for a 25 year old n64. No clue why nintendo bothers ending production runs on games when they know people still buy sell and play 30 year old titles. They could just license the reruns to someone else to produce the cartriges and disks and make money hand over fist. It always seems like nintendo has blinde…

I don't think they can undertake Xbox/Playstation. Nintendo is a niche while Xbox/Playstation another. I guess they just want people to buy newer consoles and games, which make sense for them.

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We seem to be managing to get rid of smoking.

It was not made illegal. Cigarettes are available everywhere. It was made uncool. The product placement in movies and such disappeared, so you don't see super cool hero looking awesome as he smokes while going to do something important. Ads targeted at kids are illegal. Everyone knows it is unhealthy. There isnless social pressure to smoke.

There was also a massive PR campaign against it. I grew up in the 90's and there was an insane amount of anti-smoking messaging to kids my age.

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> People really do just want a one click solution for creating adult content, and consuming adult content. Once they know it's possible, people want a one click solution for anything. The subject being taboo has nothing to do with it. This is one reason why Youtube, Spotify, Steam and Netflix did such a good job combatting piracy for music, video games, and movies, while ROM sites are still a ubiquitous problem for 2…

Netflix is getting into games for a reason. It's unclear if they only play to make new ones or also license old ones. But I agree with you, I'm surprised Steam doesn't have a way to get old ROMs.

> Steam doesn't have a way to get old ROMs.

Licensing hell.

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Bhad Bhabie (cash me outside meme girl) made over $1M in 6 hours and said she could retire right now from the amount of money she has made off OF. And she's not doing "porn" or even posting fully nude photos. There's a big movement to gain a lot of followers on social media like TikTok and then redirect those followers to their $5/month OnlyFans. There are a lot of people making a living or at least significantly boo…

OF is probably similar to Etsy, where the 95th percentile make millions and the median income is $0.

Taleb -> Extremistan.

It's super toxic for society since it's literally "winner takes all".

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Craftsmen who are willing to do a small job for me are so hard to find right now, they're busy enough NONE of them in my area need the business. Every quote I get is either overblown "to make it worth my time", or I simply get declined. Ontario, Canada.

That’s interesting- this is the third time I’ve heard this about Ontario in less than a week. Do you have any idea what’s driving this? Another person in the same boat believes that a lot of people are fixing up homes to sell while the market is hot. Another person believes that it’s a supply problem - trades people left Ontario for Alberta, lost their jobs there and can’t afford to move back.

Ontario and BC have extremely hot housing markets and the demand is off the charts - a lot of tilers and plumbers in BC get sucked into reno contracting companies and simply have enough work to keep them busy for years. I don't think there was an exodus to Alberta - tradesfolk bring in serious cash in Canada so they can definitely afford to live in hot areas... I'd be more curious if it was actually early retirement that was driving things with tradesfolk building up enough of a nest egg that they can afford to retire early.

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if they are smart they'll move to crypto and hopefully start a movement away from these centralized payment processors. Stuff like this might finally be what causes mainstream adoption

I still don't understand this argument, maybe because I just don't understand enough about crypto currency itself. What coin is stable enough to use as currency? Unless OnlyFans could pay its employees and services with that said coin (who could then use it elsewhere directly), the company would still have to convert to fiat currency right? And wouldn't that itself affect the coin price?

I am very much a cryptocurrency skeptic, but you could imagine a token which is only used as a medium of exchange. I.e. you convert your USD into the token immediately before making the payment, and the recipient converts it back to USD milliseconds later.

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It's ridiculous that games like super smash bros are the same price whether you buy them new on a switch or used for a 25 year old n64. No clue why nintendo bothers ending production runs on games when they know people still buy sell and play 30 year old titles. They could just license the reruns to someone else to produce the cartriges and disks and make money hand over fist. It always seems like nintendo has blinde…

I don't think they can undertake Xbox/Playstation. Nintendo is a niche while Xbox/Playstation another. I guess they just want people to buy newer consoles and games, which make sense for them.

I don't think selling smash bros 64 again will hurt their nintendo switch sales very much.

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Craftsmen who are willing to do a small job for me are so hard to find right now, they're busy enough NONE of them in my area need the business. Every quote I get is either overblown "to make it worth my time", or I simply get declined. Ontario, Canada.

That’s interesting- this is the third time I’ve heard this about Ontario in less than a week. Do you have any idea what’s driving this? Another person in the same boat believes that a lot of people are fixing up homes to sell while the market is hot. Another person believes that it’s a supply problem - trades people left Ontario for Alberta, lost their jobs there and can’t afford to move back.

In my experience, having been a homeowner in Alberta first, then Ontario second - it's similar to software development...

Most tradespeople prefer to work on new builds, large amounts of stable work, without the hastle of renovating existing structures and all of the hidden issues that are quickly exposed once the surface has been taken away. (So... technical debt...)

As a contract IT consultant - sure, sometimes I take small "side-hustle" contracts if I am not swamped by my primary gig - but, I couldn't pay all mortgage if I was reliant on just taking small/odd jobs. Same goes for tradespeople.

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