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I don't know how to IE6

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Re: I don't know how to IE6

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Post by biot »

pawelwentpawel wrote: post #7

"make it sure that it works on ie6" is the worst line you can hear at work. especially if you're developing a web app. even global websites like fb don't support ie6 anymore. http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_explorer.asp - IE6 has 2.6%, I don't really see a point in spending hours optimizing stuff for it.

As with anything, it's a cost/benefit analysis. If you ran a company that sells a billon dollars of products online per year, would you ask your web developer to spend hours ensuring the site looks and functions decently in IE6 if that means an extra $26 million? I sure as heck would.

On the flip side, if you're short on resources and that time would be better spent adding functionality which would result in > 2.6% return, then by all means ignore IE6.

Re: I don't know how to IE6

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Post by w1ntermute »

bmunro wrote: post #18
veyron wrote: post #10

http://www.ie6countdown.com/ "We should stop supporting IE6" "What percentage of people use IE6?" "10%" "Hmm, 10% sounds like a lot of people ... let's support it!"

10% of the population of the world use IE6, but that is heavily weighted by countries such as China (34%) and South Korea (22%) If your target audience is English-speaking or European countries, the relevant proportion is 2% to 3% or less. That's a pretty good level to start to consider whether supporting that small percentage is actually making you more money than you would if you didn't support their browser.

Does anyone know why Asia has such a high level of IE6 usage? I don't think it has to do with the computers being old, because IE6 usage is relatively high even in developed places like Japan, Hong Kong, and Singapore.

Re: I don't know how to IE6

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Post by corin_ »

melling wrote: post #15

2% of the US uses IE6. Explain that to your boss and ask if it's still necessary to support it. [Update] For Google Apps, Google no longer supports IE7. YouTube support for IE6 was dropped a year ago, and they make a lot of ad money from YouTube now.

In terms of percentage that's pretty small, but that doesn't mean it isn't important. If you estimate the number of US internet users to be ~240 million, 2% is 4.8 million people.

Sure, a small chunk of the pie, but still a large chunk of people. And, in a hypothetical situation where your % of revenue generating visitors is exactly the same as for the overall population, not many companies would want to lose 2% of their revenue, or profit.

Re: I don't know how to IE6

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Post by kingkilr »

w1ntermute wrote: post #22
bmunro wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

10% of the population of the world use IE6, but that is heavily weighted by countries such as China (34%) and South Korea (22%) If your target audience is English-speaking or European countries, the relevant proportion is 2% to 3% or less. That's a pretty good level to start to consider whether supporting that small percentage is actually making you more money than you would if you didn't support their browser.

Does anyone know why Asia has such a high level of IE6 usage? I don't think it has to do with the computers being old, because IE6 usage is relatively high even in developed places like Japan, Hong Kong, and Singapore.

My understanding is that it is very common in China because people mostly use a browser supplied by their ISP which is a rebranded IE6.

Re: I don't know how to IE6

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Post by ilikepi »

kennu wrote: post #9

I hate web articles that don't have a publish date. This one would seem like a year and a half old.

It opened in a mobile-optimized view on my phone, and at the bottom it says, "2 hours ago." It's also listed under August 2011 on the Archive page. But I do agree that most blog posts are generally enhanced by the inclusion of the post date for context.

Re: I don't know how to IE6

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Post by veyron »

w1ntermute wrote: post #22
bmunro wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

10% of the population of the world use IE6, but that is heavily weighted by countries such as China (34%) and South Korea (22%) If your target audience is English-speaking or European countries, the relevant proportion is 2% to 3% or less. That's a pretty good level to start to consider whether supporting that small percentage is actually making you more money than you would if you didn't support their browser.

Does anyone know why Asia has such a high level of IE6 usage? I don't think it has to do with the computers being old, because IE6 usage is relatively high even in developed places like Japan, Hong Kong, and Singapore.

I imagine there are a large number of pirated windows xp copies in china

Re: I don't know how to IE6

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Post by carbonica »

What Computer Science program would leave you buried in CSS for 2.5 years? If he meant he spent 2.5 years working with CSS on the side, why didn't he ever think "maybe I should learn legacy support"?

Re: I don't know how to IE6

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Post by thomasjoulin »

Me, I say that our apps can't work with IE (yes, IE, including 7 and 8), without a plugin : Google Chrome Frame.

Both the words "plugins" (reminds him of Flash I guess) and "Google" seems reassuring :p Might not work at every company ^^

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