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Post by kevingadd »

jstanley wrote: post #607
da_chicken wrote: post #405

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> People really do just want a one click solution for creating adult content, and consuming adult content. Once they know it's possible, people want a one click solution for anything. The subject being taboo has nothing to do with it. This is one reason why Youtube, Spotify, Steam and Netflix did such a good job combatting piracy for music, video games, and movies, while ROM sites are still a ubiquitous problem for 2…

Why is piracy of games for a 20-year-old console a problem? Is anyone still selling new games for those consoles?

The rightsholder wants to be able to sell the game to you again on a new platform to keep collecting revenue off it

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Post by colejohnson66 »

CityOfThrowaway wrote: post #400
pclmulqdq wrote: post #269

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Marking the value of your company to market can make you richer over night. If you have a $10/year income stream, a bank might run a calculation valuing that income stream at $50-$100. If you can instead get investors to value it at $1000 (because it is a "tech company" and deserves an insane valuation), you are a lot richer than you used to be. Even if you lose 90% of your income stream, you are still probably riche…

For the sake of correctness, Bezos is definitely not in a $500M jet. The only jet at that price is owned by a Saudi Prince. Also, the idea that Bezos and people like him never sell stock is just completely wrong. This stuff is public record, you can look it up. Here’s an article that did it already [0]. Which means, yes, Bezos and all the other über rich pay taxes and don’t borrow money to avoid taxes until they die.…

Also, if you borrow against a stock as collateral, that loan will come due eventually. Don’t you have to sell something to pay that money back?

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Post by hluska »

crescentfresh wrote: post #266
pelasaco wrote: post #246

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In Germany, all Craftsmen are just laughing. Tiler, Carpenter, electrician, etc.. all of them have enough to do, can choose their clients and their wages. I understand that HN always will tend to talk about CS, but Craftsmen are doing their 40k/year, easily. The Salary potential is just increasing.

Craftsmen who are willing to do a small job for me are so hard to find right now, they're busy enough NONE of them in my area need the business. Every quote I get is either overblown "to make it worth my time", or I simply get declined. Ontario, Canada.

That’s interesting- this is the third time I’ve heard this about Ontario in less than a week. Do you have any idea what’s driving this? Another person in the same boat believes that a lot of people are fixing up homes to sell while the market is hot. Another person believes that it’s a supply problem - trades people left Ontario for Alberta, lost their jobs there and can’t afford to move back.

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Post by asdff »

onlyfansfan wrote: post #97

A question to you entrepreneurial types. Why does an globally established and growing company with a proven business model want to raise a billion dollar investment? It's money they'll have to pay back with interest and I assume there would be other strings attached (like the high risk implied by the planned move that was now canceled). How is possibly better than organic growth at this point where they are probably…

Because then OF becomes a company worth X+a billion dollars. Your stock options go up accordingly, and you can take profit and walk away before the cows come home. It's like getting ahold of a stolen credit card and maxing out the credit limits with fraudulent purchases while you can. Most business leaders who these days only have tenures of a few years do not care about outlooks past a few years. Throw the hot potato into the next persons lap and you are already working the same angle in your next gig when the old one explodes in your wake.

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Post by brundolf »

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #455
duxup wrote: post #72

My understanding was that they were being cut off by payment processors and banks and that drove the decision. Was this resolved?

Yes: > “The proposed Oct. 1, 2021 changes are no longer required due to banking partners’ assurances that OnlyFans can support all genres of creators,” [an OnlyFans spokesperson] said. https://variety.com/2021/digital/news/onlyfans-drops-porn-ba... The Variety article theorizes that the backlash may have actually been exactly the outcome OnlyFans wanted, because they were able to focus public outrage toward the banks…

I'm honestly surprised the market forces are strong enough that the banks have to care about the bad PR at all

Nobody wants to change banks even when it affects them directly. How many people are going to change banks out of principle?

I guess some Gen Zers might be motivated not to pick Chase as their first bank?

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Post by PartiallyTyped »

PartiallyTyped wrote: post #245
eloisant wrote: post #148

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It's not necessarily money they'll have to pay back, it can be investors getting a share of the company (and existing investors getting their share diluted). Sometimes they might want to raise to grow faster than your competitors. Not sure about their market, but sometimes there is a "winner takes all" market where the winner isn't established yet. So it's a race to grow fast enough to be the first to get to that net…

The devs of FloatPlane considered entering that market as soon as the exit was announced, but given the development time and the fact that most of the content creators migrated to other platforms, and therefore they would be very late.

Huh, the thought came out unintelligible.

Let me try again.

The devs of FloatPlane considered entering that market as soon as the exit was announced, but given the development time and the fact that most of the content creators migrated to other platforms, they would be very late and therefore it is not a worthwhile endeavor.

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Post by skohan »

toofy wrote: post #608
skohan wrote: post #590

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If anything I thought maybe it was a publicity stunt.

I could see why this might be your first thought, but I suspect this move might have hurt OF more than helping, simply because most of the people who formerly/currently call OF home have now lost any sense of stability. Tho, as we’ve seen in the past, network effect will likely play a huge part in most of the content creators staying with OF. However I just can’t imagine the feeling of safety/permanence in platform c…

I don't know if they have much to worry about. Where would those creators move? Is there any even remotely comparable platform in terms of user-base and pop-culture penetration? If you were worried about stability would you really feel better moving to some unknown upstart competitor?

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Post by tsimionescu »

bobthechef wrote: post #311
whymauri wrote: post #51

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it's pretty huge COVID hit recently graduated Gen-Z incredibly hard. There's huge groups that are/were unemployed and then there's huge groups who are sexually repressed due to quarantine. Across the whole world, too*. Many can easily make more than min wage, and in certain niches you probably don't even have to be 'conventionally beautiful' (sorry to use this term, but it's important I think) to make a living or sol…

> COVID hit recently graduated Gen-Z incredibly hard. Gen-Z is less sexually active than previous generations. Significantly so. They've been exposed to porn at an earlier age (owing to earlier access to the internet and the ubiquity of pornography online). Porn use was already common among them. The lockdown made things worse, but the status quo was already in place. > There's huge groups that are/were unemployed an…

Wow, I've never seen such a prudish comment so amply stated.

> Sexual liberation has made people easier to control. It has truncated their humanity, warped them, and turned them into sex robots.

This is entirely based on nothing. Even worse, it ignores the much more direct and relevant innovations in the area of controlling populations - propaganda and advertising.

> a rather stark example is the broadcasting of porn on captured Palestinian television by the Israelis; you think they were trying to liberate them?

No, they were trying to shock and humiliate Muslim sensibilities, similar to stashing pork on busses. Sexuality is not some secret sauce of controlling people - there are much more direct ways of doing so, especially with the power of a state like Israel.

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