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Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by immmmmm » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 5:21 PM UTC

cblconfederate wrote: post #567

rootsudo wrote: post #36

My biggest shock was how much "PR" was generated on Reddit, and how many sexworkers really do use the platform. I knew it was a thing, I knew of the memes, but to see both sides in arms over a company vs branding, creating their own website and content - and vanity domain as well. People really do just want a one click solution for creating adult content, and consuming adult content. And the memes, I think they're pr…

Why do we call pornstars sex workers and not artists?

they are both. but the former is less controversial.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by toofy » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 5:21 PM UTC

pushrax wrote: post #524

toofy wrote: post #519

White this is temporarily great news for sex workers, its worth keeping a couple things in mind: This would seem to be in large part an extension of the wider religious right and groups similar to the Moral Majority's push from previous decades to remove sexuality or "objectional content" from the public sphere. This recent OnlyFans (and PornHub) pressure were driven in large part by pressure from Exodus Cry and NCOS…

This seems somewhat plausible, but how do you know these organizations have anything to do with OnlyFans?

They're open about it, but its been written about pretty extensively. One of my other comments [0] has a number of links. Including a couple which discuss their involvement in PornHub takedown as well.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28304164

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by TchoBeer » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 5:21 PM UTC

lostgame wrote: post #381

koffiezet wrote: post #378

People here don't seem to realise all this was from pressure from fundamentalist christian groups like Exodus Cry, which managed to collect 2 million signatures pretending to want to protect sex workers and be anti-trafficking. Their end-goal however is a lot simpler: get rid of all porn.

Because the early 1900’s prohibition and the war on drugs has totally shown us ridding us of something there is massive demand for totally works!

We seem to be managing to get rid of smoking.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by jtbayly » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 5:23 PM UTC

elliekelly wrote: post #200

busymom0 wrote: post #178

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So I guess starting a bank is the next step?

Payment processing isn’t something a bank gets to decide on their own either. It’s decided by a group. In the US it’s NACHA: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NACHA

I don’t see any mention of payment processing in there. Have another link?

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by coderintherye » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 5:24 PM UTC

cletus wrote: post #552

Does anyone think this was a failed pivot from the p0rn and the backlash was so great that they backpedaled? It actually reminds me of Ebay. Ebay became big with online auctions but as soon as they did they seemed to want to no longer be in the auction business. Instead they wanted to be in the online retail business. Maybe because there was more money per customer. Maybe because online retail was larger. Personally…

No. They call out the specific banks here: https://www.ft.com/content/7b8ce71c-a87a-440e-9f3d-58069ca04...

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by jtbayly » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 5:25 PM UTC

Anybody else think this feels suspiciously like a planned set of moves to generate hype?

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by toofy » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 5:25 PM UTC

reydequeso wrote: post #531

toofy wrote: post #519

White this is temporarily great news for sex workers, its worth keeping a couple things in mind: This would seem to be in large part an extension of the wider religious right and groups similar to the Moral Majority's push from previous decades to remove sexuality or "objectional content" from the public sphere. This recent OnlyFans (and PornHub) pressure were driven in large part by pressure from Exodus Cry and NCOS…

>I think they'll probably try to grab momentum from some of the other more ... conpsiratorial(?) groups that have some popularity currently. if they do as you say, which i think is quite plausible, it'll be interesting to see how they fit in the more anti-semetic and end-of-days thoughts that are foundational to those groups.

Im sure we'll see the end-of-days stuff a bit--a lot of the "this degeneracy, this porn, it is proof that civilization is falling apart and the end is near." only packaged in a way that will resonate with the puritanical types.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by bingohbangoh » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 5:25 PM UTC

cletus wrote: post #552

Does anyone think this was a failed pivot from the p0rn and the backlash was so great that they backpedaled? It actually reminds me of Ebay. Ebay became big with online auctions but as soon as they did they seemed to want to no longer be in the auction business. Instead they wanted to be in the online retail business. Maybe because there was more money per customer. Maybe because online retail was larger. Personally…

I suspect OnlyFans cobbled together a "honeypot" deal.

This would explain why Pornhub, etc. lost their payment processing but OnlyFans feels confident they won't.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by willcipriano » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 5:26 PM UTC

alex_young wrote: post #557

willcipriano wrote: post #527

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> similar to the Moral Majority's push from previous decades to remove sexuality or "objectional content" from the public sphere. "History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes” – Mark Twain

On the one hand I love the spirit of this quote, but on the other, it's pretty solidly not a Twain quote: https://quoteinvestigator.com/2014/01/12/history-rhymes/

I was going to mention that but I went for a more laconic approach. I didn't want it to appear like I had written it, but a long explanation about how it's commonly attributed to Mark Twain but may not be him seemed to make the comment worse.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by toyg » Wed, Aug 25, 2021, 5:26 PM UTC

Mindwipe wrote: post #508

Sebb767 wrote: post #505

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've actually heard that quite often and it seems anecdotally true to me, but is there actually any study to prove this?

Nope. There was a little upkick at the start of the pandemic according to Sandvine, but Sandvine's methodology is not watertight and lots of people staying at home with not much to do seems a more likely culprit than service fragmentation.

anecdotally, I freeload on a Netflix account paid for by a friend, and last year I was tempted to get my own subscription. Then I noticed Netflix had fewer and fewer movies I was interested in, and just went back to sailing the high seas.