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Post by bilkow »

wubbert wrote: post #548
judge2020 wrote: post #542

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My understanding is that these action committees are the ones that pressured the banks and payment processors (whose partial functions are shielding their partner banks from bad PR) to do so.

I didn't read anything about those organizations being involved in any of the stories about the Pornhub thing. Do you have any evidence of them being involved or are you just speculating?

According to wikipedia, the Traffickinghub campaign, created by Exodus Cry's Director of Abolition, resulted on the credit cards ban.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exodus_Cry#Traffickinghub_camp...

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wubbert wrote: post #548
judge2020 wrote: post #542

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My understanding is that these action committees are the ones that pressured the banks and payment processors (whose partial functions are shielding their partner banks from bad PR) to do so.

I didn't read anything about those organizations being involved in any of the stories about the Pornhub thing. Do you have any evidence of them being involved or are you just speculating?

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Post by throwaway2037 »

KoftaBob wrote: post #472
traveler01 wrote: post #66

As a Gen-Z also recently graduated (less than 5 years), I can assure you, the fact these platforms are so big is because being graduated isn't worth anything these days. You are lucky or you are not.

I mean luck is always a factor, but let's be real, the major/career path someone chooses to study in college is a much bigger determinant of your prospects after graduation. I still can't understand how people can willingly choose any number of majors/careers that are very well known to have a weak job market and salary range, and then act surprised when it's tough after graduating.

The last half you wrote is so real and devastating to many. And few get the advice they need at 17 or 18 years old to make a more commercially relevant decision! If you are from an upper-middle class (and above) family, no worries -- anything will do. For all others, choose wisely.

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Post by toofy »

gonehome wrote: post #539
toofy wrote: post #519

White this is temporarily great news for sex workers, its worth keeping a couple things in mind: This would seem to be in large part an extension of the wider religious right and groups similar to the Moral Majority's push from previous decades to remove sexuality or "objectional content" from the public sphere. This recent OnlyFans (and PornHub) pressure were driven in large part by pressure from Exodus Cry and NCOS…

I thought the main cause of this was a recent law change regarding liability around sex trafficking: https://www.wired.com/story/how-a-controversial-new-sex-traf... Rather than risk this liability it's easier for payment processors to just not work with high risk sites.

NCOSE pressure campaign was heavily directed against payment companies. They're quite open about it. [0]

The first link is directly to NCOSE (Morality in Media) but heres a few other articles with quite a bit more information. [1][2][3][4][5][6][7]

[0] https://ncose.salsalabs.org/thankyou_mastercard_visa/index.h...

[1] https://www.newsweek.com/why-visa-mastercard-being-blamed-on...

[2] https://knock-la.com/onlyfans-bans-sex-work/

[3] https://reason.com/2021/08/20/why-onlyfans-is-double-crossin...

[4] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-52543508

[5] https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-real-reasons-why-onlyfans-...

[6] https://avn.com/business/articles/legal/mastercard-visa-ban-...

[7] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-pornhub-policy/pornhub-pu...

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Post by immmmmm »

toofy wrote: post #519

White this is temporarily great news for sex workers, its worth keeping a couple things in mind: This would seem to be in large part an extension of the wider religious right and groups similar to the Moral Majority's push from previous decades to remove sexuality or "objectional content" from the public sphere. This recent OnlyFans (and PornHub) pressure were driven in large part by pressure from Exodus Cry and NCOS…

i was not aware of these pressures, but on the other not surprised.

i do fully agree with you, and even perhaps think in a broader sense, that we must watch these extreme religious/ extreme nationalist movements, from a sharper eye.

also, as climate change will proceed by cutting ressources, food and water from the poorest, as well as causing wars and possibly massive migration, these groups will only become stronger.

Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban

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Post by toofy »

wubbert wrote: post #537
toofy wrote: post #519

White this is temporarily great news for sex workers, its worth keeping a couple things in mind: This would seem to be in large part an extension of the wider religious right and groups similar to the Moral Majority's push from previous decades to remove sexuality or "objectional content" from the public sphere. This recent OnlyFans (and PornHub) pressure were driven in large part by pressure from Exodus Cry and NCOS…

I thought Pornhub banned unverified content because MasterCard added them to a blacklist over them repeatedly not deleting illegal content?

I don't like copy and pasting my other comments directly, so ill just link to it [0] but the short answer is, they're pretty open about their pressure campaigns towards payment processors. There was also quite a lot of exposing during the PornHub debacle.

the linked comment has quite a few links attached.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28304164

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Post by cblconfederate »

rootsudo wrote: post #36

My biggest shock was how much "PR" was generated on Reddit, and how many sexworkers really do use the platform. I knew it was a thing, I knew of the memes, but to see both sides in arms over a company vs branding, creating their own website and content - and vanity domain as well. People really do just want a one click solution for creating adult content, and consuming adult content. And the memes, I think they're pr…

Why do we call pornstars sex workers and not artists?

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Post by bradlys »

jshen wrote: post #458
pelasaco wrote: post #352

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok, but I'm not from NY/SF but I'm assuming based on the small amount of time that I spent there, that every thing is more expensive there, including housing and medical care... In Germany (Europe?) I would say that a Software Developer salary floats between 30k/y - 100k/y.

Yeah, it’s more expensive in the big cities, but if you by a house you tend to profit from that increase. It’s hard to see that when in the early stages of your career, but I’m glad I stuck it out and didn’t move to a low cost area. Im in the late stages of my career and after owning my home for 15 years my mortgage is far less than rents in my area, my salary has gone up a ton over the years, and my house has apprec…

I don’t know if the price increases will keep happening at the same historical rates. Although it isn’t out of the realm of possibility, I have a hard time believing that the houses in my neighborhood in 5-10 years will go from $2-3m to $4-6m.

Real estate is a tricky thing. I wouldn’t buy it for the sake of expecting it to go up in value. I’d buy it because you need housing.

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Post by dfdz »

boublepop wrote: post #356

In reality they always knew it made no sense, but the amount of free PR they got from every major news outlet across the world posting essentially: “Popular pornographic app only available for a short while!” Is absolutely insane, and made the full circus with it all. It’s like Red Bull leaning into the “dangerous drink” coverage.

Here my conspiracy theory, which closely related to what you are saying.

The BBC was investigating OnlyFans and found damaging stuff[1]. The leadership at OnlyFans was trying to think of a way to avoid the resulting bad press so they come up with the brilliant idea of announcing an upcoming Ban on all sexual material.

This will keep distracted while they work on improving their content moderation. When ready, they can announce their new policy: sexual content will be allowed, but with better moderation! (Exactly what they should have been doing all along).

[1] https://www.bbc.com/news/business-58273914

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Post by cblconfederate »

da_chicken wrote: post #405
rootsudo wrote: post #36

My biggest shock was how much "PR" was generated on Reddit, and how many sexworkers really do use the platform. I knew it was a thing, I knew of the memes, but to see both sides in arms over a company vs branding, creating their own website and content - and vanity domain as well. People really do just want a one click solution for creating adult content, and consuming adult content. And the memes, I think they're pr…

> People really do just want a one click solution for creating adult content, and consuming adult content. Once they know it's possible, people want a one click solution for anything. The subject being taboo has nothing to do with it. This is one reason why Youtube, Spotify, Steam and Netflix did such a good job combatting piracy for music, video games, and movies, while ROM sites are still a ubiquitous problem for 2…

Well there is BitTorrent and filesharing but they made it illegal
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