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Post by kbenson »

entropicdrifter wrote: post #439
kbenson wrote: post #433

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I can see it now. Most ROMs would be available, but Nintendo would be notably absent from any of the platforms and only allow their ROMs to be streamed from their own service.

>Nintendo would be notably absent from any of the platforms and only allow their ROMs to be streamed from their own service. They already do this, you need a Switch online subscription to access the NES/SNES ROMs they have available

Oh, I know, but in the theoretical world where there's a Netflix like subscription, I would assume that means a lot of different IP was also gathered there, like Sega, Atari, older Playstation and Xbox titles, etc.

There's not a lot of incentive for some of those groups to come together, but I imagine even if most could be assembled, Nintendo would be particularly resistant.

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Post by everyone »

So Visa and Mastercard have been pressuring only fans to do this. Threatening to withdraw their services. It is extremely worrying that these credit card companies can decide what media society at large can consume.

What I am most curious about though, is why? Why do Visa and Mastercard give a shit what business their clients are in?

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Post by zodiakzz »

polote wrote: post #443
whymauri wrote: post #51

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it's pretty huge COVID hit recently graduated Gen-Z incredibly hard. There's huge groups that are/were unemployed and then there's huge groups who are sexually repressed due to quarantine. Across the whole world, too*. Many can easily make more than min wage, and in certain niches you probably don't even have to be 'conventionally beautiful' (sorry to use this term, but it's important I think) to make a living or sol…

The success of OF is more a question of demand than offer honestly. During the lockdowns they were a lot of guys with money to spend but could not spend it on social activities, so a lot of it went on internet websites. But there is also a more long term trend of people having less and less sex and more and more porno consumption. But that can't go forever, at one point if all girls in the world are on sex workers th…

Females just have different/complex drives/needs for sexual attraction than males, who are mostly just drived by libido/horniness. You can observe this in nature too. Seems the males are the "abnormal" ones here, addicted to chemical reactions in the brain. (Didn't expect to see this line of thinking on HN...).

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Post by jollybean »

Alan_Dillman wrote: post #278
throwaway0a5e wrote: post #192

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>For $$ per hour worked, why would they field low wage, menial jobs with a risk of COVID? Because after shit pay being the desk girl at Walmart Tire Center for 2yr you can easily convert that into a service writer job and then retire from your job as regional support manager for Compare with thotting around on the internet where you can make a ton of money up front but you're basically racing the clock because your b…

There is no reason one cannot thot and do something else. Many of them seem to be enrolled in advanced education. Likewise, a good thot income can fund a future, either going to school at 30, when you have a much better idea of who you are, or funding a more traditional business, or snapping up a few properties. Likewise, they might be cagey enough to learn the backend of their backend business, and come out of it wi…

Advanced education is a rough form for most sex workers as most companies will not hire people who have their porn all over. Certainly not in America and definitely not in the rest of the world. Sometimes we think of Europe as being more 'liberal' for example, but they are really more communitarian. Open minded but still culturally very traditional.

For some professions and companies it won't matter but for others it'll matter a lot.

Because we have just started with all of this, and we also don't know the future, it's hard to 'price in' what the future cost of doing this kind of work with respect to future options.

That said, Sylvester Stallone did porn films, but that's also a specific industry, pre-internet.

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Post by dragonwriter »

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #438
dlp211 wrote: post #353

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Yes, because it's impossible to ever change careers or apply your work ethic to gaining new skills. The idea that you don't have marketable skills having been in the military is also the biggest piece of bunk I've ever heard and you really have no idea what you are talking about. -former infantryman

When you leave the military with an infantry MOS and without leadership experience (which is the situation most people who quit after 4yr are in) all you have is a proven ability to work hard and put up with bullshit. You're on roughly equal ground with someone who's been a warehouse laborer or janitor for an equivalent period of time and on lower ground than someone who at least has industry adjacent experience. Bei…

> When you leave the military with an infantry MOS and without leadership experience all you have is a proven ability to work hard and put up with bullshit.

But, from the contact I’ve had with the military (been close to several people who have either enlisted or commossioned experience, did the ROTC basic camp but chose not to contract) that's not particularly likely unless you are either actively avoiding or completely unsuited for leadership.

And even then you’ll probably have some leadership experience.

> You're on roughly equal ground with someone who's been a warehouse laborer or janitor for an equivalent period of time and on lower ground than someone who at least has industry adjacent experience.

Even if you somehow manage to be in that place skill-wise (and I think, leadership skills aside, that's unlikely), you are still better off career-wise, because essentially all public and many, especially large, private employers apply systematic positive preference for veterans in hiring.

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Post by polote »

zodiakzz wrote: post #483
polote wrote: post #443

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The success of OF is more a question of demand than offer honestly. During the lockdowns they were a lot of guys with money to spend but could not spend it on social activities, so a lot of it went on internet websites. But there is also a more long term trend of people having less and less sex and more and more porno consumption. But that can't go forever, at one point if all girls in the world are on sex workers th…

Females just have different/complex drives/needs for sexual attraction than males, who are mostly just drived by libido/horniness. You can observe this in nature too. Seems the males are the "abnormal" ones here, addicted to chemical reactions in the brain. (Didn't expect to see this line of thinking on HN...).

Even if they do have different needs that men (I feel so too, but have not scientifically studied the subject) you can't ignore the pressure of the society all their life on the topic

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Post by kbenson »

jedberg wrote: post #464
da_chicken wrote: post #405

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> People really do just want a one click solution for creating adult content, and consuming adult content. Once they know it's possible, people want a one click solution for anything. The subject being taboo has nothing to do with it. This is one reason why Youtube, Spotify, Steam and Netflix did such a good job combatting piracy for music, video games, and movies, while ROM sites are still a ubiquitous problem for 2…

Netflix is getting into games for a reason. It's unclear if they only play to make new ones or also license old ones. But I agree with you, I'm surprised Steam doesn't have a way to get old ROMs.

> But I agree with you, I'm surprised Steam doesn't have a way to get old ROMs.

Not quite old ROMs, but gog.com sells old computer games prepackaged for Dosbox, which because of that work on Windows, Mac and Linux. That's basically the old PC computer equivalent of what I believe Nintendo does by shipping the emulator with the ROM when you buy it through the Virtual Console so it runs as a whole.

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Post by da_chicken »

moksly wrote: post #225
duxup wrote: post #72

My understanding was that they were being cut off by payment processors and banks and that drove the decision. Was this resolved?

There are US laws that I can’t remember the names of which make financial institutions legally responsible (probably bad English) for crimes that happen on platforms they sell their services to. So VISA could be fined for any trafficking that happen on OnlyFans. This is also why Pronhub had to remove almost all their videos if they wanted to keep credit card services. As an European I’m a fan of laws that make platfo…

> There are US laws that I can’t remember the names of which make financial institutions legally responsible (probably bad English) for crimes that happen on platforms they sell their services to.

If it's what I'm thinking of, these laws are collectively known as "know your customer" or "KYC" [0]. It's primarily intended to prevent racketeering, money laundering, and other organized criminal activity, but the laws are written very broadly in part because they're looking for surreptitious activity.

In the case of sex work, it's difficult to verify that all performers are of legal age, that all activity is consensual, and so on. Since there are many, many ways that sex work can be illegal, it's very complicated.

[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Know_your_customer

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Post by fenderbluesjr »

immmmmm wrote: post #113
dna_polymerase wrote: post #103

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> it should be noted that she is a brilliant individual it should NOT be noted. Too many good people died in the wars of past centuries to get us to the freedom and liberty we enjoy today to let any fundamentalists dictate what a normal job is and who works it. Sex work is work and if you dislike it you'd might enjoy Afghanistan these days.

i know, unfortunately sex work is still highly stigmatized, including in western present cultures. you don't need to go as far as afghanistan, i'm back from eastern europe where my friends from the LGBTQ community are literally being beaten by neo nazi funded by putin.

It is stigmatized because it plays a part in facilitating people's addictions and mental problems. Just like gambling, drug-dealing, snake-oil salesmen, etc. It's not all roses, that's for sure..
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