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Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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They can't set a cookie? Associate my phone with my desktop by IP address correlation on home ISPs? C'mon, they oughta be more capable than that.

Cookies don't track you nearly as well. What happens if you delete a cookie? Fingerprinting isn't a universal solution either as iDevices all look extremely similar to each other. As to IP addresses, they only work if you connect from your home WiFi. Not every phone has that set up. Often they use carrier grade NAT so you only have a few IPs to work with. Last, customers of their data love being able to search/correl…

>What happens if you delete a cookie?

I imagine the data of 99.9% people they mostly care about are the ones who dont know what cookies are, let alone how to delete them or otherwise mask/misdirect various internet trackers.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Scary. Patagonia might show me an ad when i read the WSJ since i follow their twitter account.

Where I go on the Internet outside of Twitter dot com is none of their business.

It’s how sites with billions in expenses are run without having to charge directly. I never click on ads so google and Twitter are free for me.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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On top of it, it's not just a matter of creating an account because they get blocked within two minutes until you also give them your phone number, despite the registration pretends it's not required (because once you signed up, it's easier to trick people into giving up yet more information than asking for it upfront).

Unrelated, but does anyone know if Facebook does this? They seem to allow signing up with just an email address, but I haven't tried going through with it and seeing if they'll eventually require a phone number.

Facebook do require a phone number to access their API (or otherwise manage a Facebook App).

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Well, here's one issue: I can tell you what a reply and hashtag is but I'm going to fail the quiz that asks me to define a TUI client. (And don't get the Chrsmistian Fundamentalists hellbent on taking downn Tumblr et al. starter anything involving a "daemon".)

.....what is this comment?

Me being far too confident in Samsung's spellcheck, is what. It's too late to edit but you get the gist: nerd stuff must don user-friendly garb for to not scare the customers. UX.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Well, here's one issue: I can tell you what a reply and hashtag is but I'm going to fail the quiz that asks me to define a TUI client. (And don't get the Chrsmistian Fundamentalists hellbent on taking downn Tumblr et al. starter anything involving a "daemon".)

The point was that the stereotypical "beards" in question can continue using their TUI clients, not that someone who doesn't know what a TUI client is should be forced to use one.

I think my point was that the insistence on interface purity is part of what (or emblematic of the ethos that) killed the chance of the protocol reaching mainstream adoption. But I take your point.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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> The problem with old.reddit.com (as opposed to teddit) is that numerous links on Reddit will redirect you to the New experience. Absent DNS hacks, you'll find yourself consistently frustrated by this. I have found that keeping the "Use new Reddit as my default experience" box unchecked on reddit.com/prefs results in almost never being redirected to the "new" site. The only exception is when someone uploaded a galle…

Are you using "old.reddit.com" to visit, or "www.reddit.com" and relying on JS for the old-site experience? I'm doing the latter (in large part so that I post old.reddit.com links), and I can assure you It Does Not Work As Expected Or Desired.

Curious, do you stay logged into reddit?

Logging out is the only thing I can think of that would cause you to keep seeing the new layout.

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Having better things to do with your time than learning an obscure CLI is not the same thing as being dumb.

Really? We almost saw a resurgence with the chatbot craze that recently passed. And frankly command-line is something that GUIs do easily , or have we as a field forgotten that too? People have such a gap-filled view of the past. I barely had to learn any IRC command-line stuff because of mIRC

I know that GUI IRC clients exist. You’re the one who brought up CLIs.

As for the chatbot craze? It was a craze. A fad.

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Twitter's users are its advertisers. Tiwtter's product is you.

We criticize free services all the time for this, but I think that paying users are monetized all the same. Using American examples, the DMV sells data, internet providers are selling user data, credit card companies are selling user data... so it's not like any other companies don't monetize their users in other ways.

This is true. Paid services also tend to parasitise their legitimate users and maximise revenues.

A key difference is that in the Twitter case, there's no monetary penalty which can be imposed by the host class (that is, the unpaied content contributors).

Much of the "harvest as much data as possible" element is also driven by fundamental power and monopolistic differences.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Are you using "old.reddit.com" to visit, or "www.reddit.com" and relying on JS for the old-site experience? I'm doing the latter (in large part so that I post old.reddit.com links), and I can assure you It Does Not Work As Expected Or Desired.

Curious, do you stay logged into reddit? Logging out is the only thing I can think of that would cause you to keep seeing the new layout.

It occurs regardless of status.
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