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#232I guess it wasn't really a requirement imposed on them by Mastercard as they claimed.
That's not very charitable. The pressure could be very real. We still don't know whether they will survive the decision they've made.
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#233I've never understood the appeal of OnlyFans. If your goal is to consume adult content, then you can get it in massive amounts for free, and without using an app. If your goal is to make money from online sex work, the ~$180 average monthly earnings are simply appaling when you compare them to traditional porn sites, where some workers earn that money in a day.
> If your goal is to make money from online sex work, the ~$180 average monthly earnings are simply appaling
That “average”, as is pointed out every time the statistic gets raised including when the story focusing on it was itself on HN, both includes conpletely inactive accounts and excludes tips—which are a significant (possibly the major) source of income for most performers—so it has nothing to do with the actual experience of active content producers on the site.
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#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
it's pretty huge COVID hit recently graduated Gen-Z incredibly hard. There's huge groups that are/were unemployed and then there's huge groups who are sexually repressed due to quarantine. Across the whole world, too*. Many can easily make more than min wage, and in certain niches you probably don't even have to be 'conventionally beautiful' (sorry to use this term, but it's important I think) to make a living or sol…
> For $$ per hour worked, why would they field low wage, menial jobs with a risk of COVID? Median OF revenue per creator is $180/mo for equivalent of a full time job. https://sea.mashable.com/culture/17130/top-onlyfans-creators... .
Which is around the minimal wage in places such as Ukraine (which isn't the ultimate low either).
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#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
Getting a degree in a field that has jobs helps too.
Doesn’t help when you don’t have the foot in the door because your family is not traditionally professional. I had to ask one of my old graduate project partners for a referral to my current (and first, at 27) tech job and I still feel dirty and guilty that I got it so easily and managed to escape the trap of being extremely qualified while making min wage in a dusty shithole of a warehouse. “It’s not what you know,…
Honestly being on the other end hiring people without referals is very draining, but my best hires have been without referals.
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#236Re: OnlyFans drops planned porn ban
#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
It helps, but for many it was/is not enough. Trust me, the job search was brutal even as a computer science graduate from MIT. I had an offer and it was revoked (and companies that I had offers from pre-pandemic would not engage anymore). I'm almost certain that I have classmates who had OF at one point during the last year and I know for certain from Twitter there's Ivy League, Cal, and Stanford students on there. E…
Maybe in the US? The UK market for tech is insanely hot. But perhaps it was previously underpriced.
No. Tech employment in the US remains hot as well. Unemployment for people in the tech industry with a degree is about 1-2%. For a software developer with a degree, it's sub 1%.
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#238I've never understood the appeal of OnlyFans. If your goal is to consume adult content, then you can get it in massive amounts for free, and without using an app. If your goal is to make money from online sex work, the ~$180 average monthly earnings are simply appaling when you compare them to traditional porn sites, where some workers earn that money in a day.
I don't use OnlyFans personally, but I can clearly see the appeal of it. Right up front is the personal connection, these creators are posting updates on their lives and their looks and more traditional content daily. It's like a watered down girlfriend experience. And that's also how it's marketed, you pay specifically for the person you're interested in, not to some shady porn production company that swaps out actors every other film. Of course this money goes through OnlyFans, but it's a lot more transparent.
I think that feeling of personal connection and more direct involvement is a complement to our modern lifestyle, and a very sharp contrast with the "oh my lord, I can see her bare ankles" sort of content that media like Playboy were based on.
And the average monthly earnings say absolutely nothing, setting up an OnlyFans takes very little effort, so the average is heavily skewed to non-committal or non-talented producers. What I've heard is that very average producers make serious money on the platform, I bet if you take the top 10.000 producers on OF, and you compare the top 10.000 porn actors, you'll find that the OF producers make a lot more money on average.
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#239A question to you entrepreneurial types. Why does an globally established and growing company with a proven business model want to raise a billion dollar investment? It's money they'll have to pay back with interest and I assume there would be other strings attached (like the high risk implied by the planned move that was now canceled). How is possibly better than organic growth at this point where they are probably…
Because that's just what tech startups do now: as long as you have a good "story", VCs throwing around their funny money left and right are easy to find. And once you're been tainted by it, you're forever fucked, locked into either going public or being bought out all the while needing to achieve hockey-stick growth. Organically grown tech companies are very few and far between.
The "old" boomer way of going to a bank with collateral to get a $750k loan is non-existent in tech. Not to mention, the bank is probably way more scrutinizing than VCs are (or just plain don't understand and will deny you).
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#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's not exactly true. It's not that an undergraduate degree is worthless, but it's become pretty standard. You may not stand above the rest with just a degree, but you certainly fall below the rest without one. I don't mean this from an intelligence or skill perspective, some of the smartest people I know don't have college degrees. But when the big companies are recruiting from college career fairs or listing it…
I have a friend who worked for 5 years at a big consultancy company and he got stonewalled for getting promoted to a team lead role because he didn't have a masters degree. Like, he was getting top marks every year at performance review, clearly knew how to do the job, but some internal policy somewhere said that you can't be a lead without a masters degree, sorry. He did manage to arrange with them that they would p…
That might me the case at larger consultancies. Also, some jobs even require a PhD, because it is super specialized. But overall, the ROI of degrees have plummeted. A friend of mine finished a Mechanical Engineering degree and couldn't find decent paying work for 2 years. He then moved onto website design.