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Post by dragonwriter »

gunfighthacksaw wrote: post #114
CabSauce wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Getting a degree in a field that has jobs helps too.

Doesn’t help when you don’t have the foot in the door because your family is not traditionally professional. I had to ask one of my old graduate project partners for a referral to my current (and first, at 27) tech job and I still feel dirty and guilty that I got it so easily and managed to escape the trap of being extremely qualified while making min wage in a dusty shithole of a warehouse. “It’s not what you know,…

> “It’s not what you know, it’s who you know” was a phrase of derision growing up, but it’s how the world works now.

It was always a phrase of derision for the naivete of those who think it has ever been different, because it has always been how the world works.

You just didn't understand it until it bit you, and then you mistook it for some recent change, even though you apparently grew up with people telling you how it is.

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Post by wombat-man »

mkl95 wrote: post #185

I've never understood the appeal of OnlyFans. If your goal is to consume adult content, then you can get it in massive amounts for free, and without using an app. If your goal is to make money from online sex work, the ~$180 average monthly earnings are simply appaling when you compare them to traditional porn sites, where some workers earn that money in a day.

Your average porn girl might make more to start, but unless they really take off, they aren't making very much. Also they get paid per shoot, not based on views. With OF they get monthly recurring revenue for their content. Performers can chat with their admirers to keep them interested and it's more of a patron/artist relationship I guess. With OF, they also have full control over the content they make, when it goes out, how long it stays out there and all that.

For viewers, it's definitely harder to browse than a regular porn site or pornhub or something, but if you end up finding a few pages you like, chatting, buying mementos. It becomes a lot more immersive than just scrolling around an ocean of videos.

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Post by lotsofpulp »

thebooktocome wrote: post #168
the_only_law wrote: post #135

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Just curious what you would say those fields are. Off the top of my head CS is steadily looking like one of the only degrees worth anything and I’d still argue the value of that given the prevalence of self taught developers. Decent starting salaries for the most part, and very good starting salaries if you’re particularly good at certain things and an otherwise unheard of ceiling. Though I’m generalizing at the mome…

Nursing, yes. Pre-COVID it looked like it might have gotten saturated but since then demand has spiked. Physical therapy seems to be doing well too. The other one in my head was pharmacy, but I guess one needs a Pharm. D to continue on. Being a pharmacy tech also sucks, objectively. CS, maybe. Engineering degrees from anything less than a large state school or tier one are probably better off trying to get into one f…

> The other one in my head was pharmacy, but I guess one needs a Pharm. D to continue on. Being a pharmacy tech also sucks, objectively.

A Pharm D is currently one of the worst investments. Their wages have been declining since at least 2015, and stagnant since 2010.

They have no ability to generate revenue other than hawking bullshit vitamins and supplements, because they have no negotiating power against the people that pay them (managed care organizations and governments). And a few big employers compose of most of the market that buys Pharm D labor (CVS, Walgreens, Kroger, Walmart).

Not to mention that you have to work evenings, weekends, nights, and deal with the general public. Checkout the pharmacy forums on sdnforum or Reddit, they are super depressing.

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Post by Guthur »

elliekelly wrote: post #142
CabSauce wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Getting a degree in a field that has jobs helps too.

The problem with college is the cost, not the degrees people choose to pursue. And blaming students for studying things that aren’t in demand is a straw man. A lot can change in the four years between enrollment and graduation. For example, I went to college in 2006 when the finance sector was booming. I graduated in 2010 when it very much wasn’t. By the time the jobs had evaporated it was much too late to change my…

If you are going to uni to do vocational training such as hairdressing, massage and being a chef then something is really screwed.

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Post by moksly »

duxup wrote: post #72

My understanding was that they were being cut off by payment processors and banks and that drove the decision. Was this resolved?

There are US laws that I can’t remember the names of which make financial institutions legally responsible (probably bad English) for crimes that happen on platforms they sell their services to.

So VISA could be fined for any trafficking that happen on OnlyFans. This is also why Pronhub had to remove almost all their videos if they wanted to keep credit card services.

As an European I’m a fan of laws that make platforms and big tech responsible for the content they house, but there is no denying that vetting that every OnlyFan sexworker is a task they can’t likely perform easily.

Of course moderation is only one of the solutions, paying money and accepting the financial damage that may come from lack of moderation is another. Of course the big banks know this, which is why they charge an insane margin for their credit card services to platforms like onlyfans, it’s likely they simply upped the price behind the closed doors.

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Post by micromacrofoot »

onlyfansfan wrote: post #97

A question to you entrepreneurial types. Why does an globally established and growing company with a proven business model want to raise a billion dollar investment? It's money they'll have to pay back with interest and I assume there would be other strings attached (like the high risk implied by the planned move that was now canceled). How is possibly better than organic growth at this point where they are probably…

Because if they don't someone else will and they'll get out-developed or undercut by someone with deep pockets.

It's kind of a dark forest of startups, if you get too much attention one of the giants will snipe you out of existence... so a lot of companies take investment to keep ahead of it.

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Post by syshum »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #211
syshum wrote: post #175

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>> less taxes (causing young folks to go heavily into debt for worthless degree credentials) So let me understand this thought process? It is better for Taxpayers to pay for "worthless degree credentials" The biggest problem in society as far as jobs are concerned is credential-ism itself. A standard public education should be good enough for a person to obtain a good middle class job, a K-12 education should be good…

> The biggest problem in society as far as jobs are concerned is credential-ism itself. A standard public education should be good enough for a person to obtain a good middle class job, a K-12 education should be good enough for 50-60% of all jobs in the market Why? What if the markets’ supply and demand curves indicate need for people with more than high school education, and an oversupply of people with just high s…

>>What if the markets’ supply and demand curves indicate need for people with more than high school education

Then that indicates the high school education is not stringent enough for the market, and should be adjusted accordingly

> and an oversupply of people with just high school education?

The market is showing currently an extreme lack of qualified people. if the market is saying there is an " oversupply of people with just high school education" but there are millions of jobs open, that means the market is telling us that a High School Diploma is meaningless to the market, which as you point out that is what many employers are saying. They are hire people with a High School Diploma and it is a crap shoot where they have basic levels of education or not because in many schools its a participation award not a skills award

This has driven employers to respond with demanding higher levels of "education" in an effort so screen people..

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Post by harryf »

mkl95 wrote: post #185

I've never understood the appeal of OnlyFans. If your goal is to consume adult content, then you can get it in massive amounts for free, and without using an app. If your goal is to make money from online sex work, the ~$180 average monthly earnings are simply appaling when you compare them to traditional porn sites, where some workers earn that money in a day.

This is a great video that explains the success of OnlyFans - https://youtu.be/nsK_6VSmlMI

Also this video does a reasonable job of analyzing the UX and understanding the user base https://youtu.be/auG2E53dFas

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Post by mathgenius »

traveler01 wrote: post #66

As a Gen-Z also recently graduated (less than 5 years), I can assure you, the fact these platforms are so big is because being graduated isn't worth anything these days. You are lucky or you are not.

> being graduated isn't worth anything these days

I'm gen-X and it's been like this for as long as i've been around too.

Degree says "this one is reliable / knows how to finish stuff". That's it.

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Post by throwawayswede »

traveler01 wrote: post #66

As a Gen-Z also recently graduated (less than 5 years), I can assure you, the fact these platforms are so big is because being graduated isn't worth anything these days. You are lucky or you are not.

Not to be that guy, but a very small percentage of people might get lucky to get an opportunity at something, not to keep it. Time and time again I've found that what people refer to as luck (aside from inheritance or lottery) is sheer hard work and discipline.
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