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U.S. drone pilot leaks footage reveals accidental killing of children and adults

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Re: U.S. drone pilot leaks footage reveals accidental killing of children and adults

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Did they broadcast violent and bloody content from there? Genuine question. The downside to fb/Twitter etc allowing bloody/violent content would be that you’d get gore trolls and it would turn into /b

They did. Facebook, and Twiter both have plenty of it. The enforcement is obviously very selective. The selective enforcement is much harder to prove than selective endorsement, and much sneakier at influencing the public opinion.

What’s “Fbtw”?

Re: U.S. drone pilot leaks footage reveals accidental killing of children and adults

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From another comment chain (credit to @belter), this seems like the original source: https://www.audacy.com/connectingvets/news/inside-america-fa... Comment chain (along with archive link for EU access): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28299929

> This site isn't currently available in the EU Do you happen to know another source or archived version? Edit: thanks for the updated links!

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28300227

Added that to the top level as well

Re: U.S. drone pilot leaks footage reveals accidental killing of children and adults

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This reads like an AI-generated translation. It looks like the source that they're plagiarizing is this Daily Mail article: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9924567/US-drone-pi... The points of difference have a strong smell of machine translation. E.g. "Killing for the sake of killing" turns into "I’ll kill you for the killing"; "Connecting Vets" becomes "Veterinary connection". @dang This article should pro…

No it's not, see:

https://web.archive.org/web/20210825045512/https://www.audac...

Re: U.S. drone pilot leaks footage reveals accidental killing of children and adults

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When we often look at drones and the advent of AI and the fear of automated killing drones but lets take another perspective. AI that assists in preventing innocents being killed. Still manually controlled but an AI to override hostile action when it deems it wrong. We all focus upon AI to identify and select targets, but an AI to help identify and prevent innocents being impacted - surely that approach would be a wo…

Sadly, you'd be wrong about that last one.

Even in cases where they would want as few casualties as possible, I believe no military would want some "pos tech" telling them what to do (and especially what not to do).

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I wonder if Facebook Twitter etc. banning violent and bloody content has prevented the public from protesting these things more widely. It is well known that TV broadcasts of Vietnam led to outrage growing against that war.

Pretty sure the protests during Vietnam were just as large, if not more so. Journalism finds a way, like internet, and genetically modified dinosaurs.

> Pretty sure the protests during Vietnam were just as large

That is the parent comment's point: there was more graphic coverage of the Vietnam available to a typical viewer, so the feeling against it was stronger.

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Is it cynical to think this was intentionally leaked to boost support for withdrawing from Afghanistan?

A cynic would probably think this was intentionally leaked to stir up problems that will spill out into the west, leading towards a sentiment of history repeating itself.

Though sometimes the timing of things are just coincidences as many a horoscope has surely taught us about connecting dots that are not connected.

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An old soldiers take: https://www.ted.com/talks/robert_gallimore_why_it_matters_ho...

In summary drones make it to easy for the countries like the UK and the US to kill with no risk to their own service men. The missiles are not magic, there will be collateral damage. Solders on the ground could mitigate this

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

From another comment chain (credit to @belter), this seems like the original source: https://www.audacy.com/connectingvets/news/inside-america-fa... Comment chain (along with archive link for EU access): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28299929

> This site isn't currently available in the EU Do you happen to know another source or archived version? Edit: thanks for the updated links!

Archived here.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210825045512/https://www.audac...

Re: U.S. drone pilot leaks footage reveals accidental killing of children and adults

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Is it cynical to think this was intentionally leaked to boost support for withdrawing from Afghanistan?

Aside from delusional Trump loyalists that have now flip-flopped and are praising the Taliban, most Americans overwhelmingly supported withdrawing years ago.

Firstly, any goal you support could be achieved wrongly by terrible means. I support stimulatinf the economy, but not by bringing back child labour

Secondly, there has been a complete failure of leadership in rebuilding afganistan and in communicating to the public that you can't just pack up and leave.

I just listened to the podcast with an afgan vet, he was there for 10 years. On the first year they shipped a hydroelectric turbine to install in a damn. On 10 year when he was leaving, the turbine was still sitting on the construction site, noone even unwrapped it.

Re: U.S. drone pilot leaks footage reveals accidental killing of children and adults

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When we often look at drones and the advent of AI and the fear of automated killing drones but lets take another perspective. AI that assists in preventing innocents being killed. Still manually controlled but an AI to override hostile action when it deems it wrong. We all focus upon AI to identify and select targets, but an AI to help identify and prevent innocents being impacted - surely that approach would be a wo…

I rather avoid an Oblivion like future.
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