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Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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Post by touisteur »

ip26 wrote: post #598
akomtu wrote: post #593

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"Unscientific" is a good example.

That isn't the hand of government at work. The term "scientist" is itself only ~200 years old. For centuries it was called things like "natural philosophy". We just haven't figured out a good antonym yet. Unfortunately, with the Latin root scientia meaning knowledge, the natural choice might be ignorantia . But ignorance is already in widespread use. Just try accusing someone unscientific of being ignorantific & see…

I felt Pirsig quite hit the nail in Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, with his Romantic versus Classical dichotomy. I'm not sure I'll explain correctly, sorry, but that's what I often come back to, when I meet disdain or lack of trust in 'science'.

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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Post by touisteur »

throaway46546 wrote: post #599
CrazyCatDog wrote: post #490

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What do the smart ones in possession of a smart TV do? Because I constantly bleed time fine tuning pi-hole to limit telemetry and retain functionality…

I removed the WiFi card from mine.

Do you remember which model it was and the format of the card? M.2? Card-express?

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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Post by fomine3 »

jaytaylor wrote: post #366
nsxwolf wrote: post #311

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The software in the newer LG OLEDs is so good I haven't bothered hooking up any of my boxes to my new TVs. I'm sure in a few years the UI will start to feel sluggish and it will be time to plug something in, but for now its a great experience, far better than any smart TV I've used before.

It doesn't matter how good it is, LG already got paid and has little incentive to keep the software secure in the long-term. I've never hooked mine into the network.

Roku is same payment model.

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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Post by avh02 »

SilverRed wrote: post #541
mminer237 wrote: post #171

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This is generally the purpose of the law. It's not like this is some life-or-death thing that can't be rectified. Samsung has no legal authority to disable a legally-purchased TV, and they would be sued to death if they used if for evil.

I feel like the law needs to take a greater role in this stuff. If you looted a TV you have no rights at all over it but if you purchased it legally it should be your device, and it should continue working like the day you got it outside of hardware failure which can be covered by repair and warranty. Technical solutions will never work because the exact same feature can be used for good and bad.

until samsung gets hacked and has every TV globally disabled.

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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Post by apexalpha »

pessimizer wrote: post #325
arduinomancer wrote: post #287

This thread feels very...Hacker News Bubble? Why is everyone so confused that smart TVs are popular? Being able to just turn on your TV and open Netflix without messing around with inputs/other devices is a huge benefit for non-technological people. And it probably costs <$50 for the manufacturer to include whatever chip is running linux in the TV, its a no-brainer.

> Why is everyone so confused that smart TVs are popular? Also the real reason that they're popular: there are no non-smart TVs available.

Any Smart TV that you don't bring online is essentially a dumb TV.

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Post by Y_Y »

MichaelGroves wrote: post #603
wombatmobile wrote: post #540

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> "Why is everyone confused that smart TVs are popular?" In his Appendix, Orwell explains the syntactical arrangement and the etymology of the Newspeak. A living language, such as English, one that has the capability of diverse expression, has the tendency to gain words and therefore broaden the awareness and knowledge of its speakers. Newspeak, on the other hand, loses words, by removing words that represent opposin…

Smart TVs, Smart watches, Smart phones, Smart houses.. how did things become smart? As far as I can determine, the 'smart [thing]' linguistic construct started with 'smart bomb' , a propaganda euphemism for guided bombs that emerged in the 70s. Does anybody have an earlier example? https://www.nytimes.com/1972/06/26/archives/smart-bombs-and-...

I had a quick look through this page for examples: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:PrefixIndex/smart

There were "smart cards" in 1974, "smart casual" dress codes in 1924, and "Smart Set" magazine in 1900.

A more careful look will surely find older and more relevant examples.

Amusingly "smart money" and "smart tickets" existed in the 18th century, referring to the results of injuries ("ow, that smarts!"). See: https://en.m.wiktionary.org/wiki/smart

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Post by gsich »

rovr138 wrote: post #449
gsich wrote: post #434

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>L;DR- TVs are using their own cellular connections The link doesn't say that.

It links to https://venturebeat.com/2019/05/01/huawei-reportedly-plans-f... And it opens with, > Though its 5G products are not entirely welcome in the United States, Huawei is reportedly pushing forward with a unique new product: the world’s first 5G television. As Nikkei reports this morning, the Chinese company plans to use the cellular-enabled TV and new PCs to challenge Samsung’s and Apple’s dominant positions i…

That's a single TV, also is this on the market, the link said "reportedly"?

The other comment is also correct.

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Post by cik »

pessimizer wrote: post #325
arduinomancer wrote: post #287

This thread feels very...Hacker News Bubble? Why is everyone so confused that smart TVs are popular? Being able to just turn on your TV and open Netflix without messing around with inputs/other devices is a huge benefit for non-technological people. And it probably costs <$50 for the manufacturer to include whatever chip is running linux in the TV, its a no-brainer.

> Why is everyone so confused that smart TVs are popular? Also the real reason that they're popular: there are no non-smart TVs available.

It's more than that. Ultimately at a certain point TVs are blank slates, and become identical. At that point it's a race to the bottom on price, as opposed to features. TVs might have multiple inputs and outputs - but if they don't, honestly that's a $10 problem so there's a lack of reasonable differentiation.

Enter "Smart TVs". Consumers can theoretically choose one based on built-in applications, versions of Android (in theory). At the very least there is differentiation. The frustrating part is that at least here, it seems like these TVs are starting to lose features like optical outputs and multiple inputs.

I literally just want a dumb slate with >2 HDMI inputs and an optical output. That's no longer an option in Israel. In calls to 16 different stores based on what's available in the country (zap.co.il) your order is always "out of stock" and the call devolves to upgrade to a newer TV that yay has Android XXX on it. Inter-connectivity is becoming difficult to purchase.

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