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The Search for a Free/Open Source Mobile Operating System

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Re: The Search for a Free/Open Source Mobile Operating System

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Post by jcelerier »

chrisseaton wrote: post #20
Apocryphon wrote: post #13

What about some other projects beyond Android and Linux? Sailfish OS? Tizen? KaiOS? Technically even WebOS was open-sourced and still around as LuneOS, but its last update was Halloween 2019, so it's likely defunct.

> Sailfish OS? Tizen? Those projects were a bizarre affair. There was I think Maemo, Moblin, LImo, SLP, Bada, Leste, MeeGo, Mer, Tizen, Sailfish, Nemo... all forks, merges, reforks of the same thing. They seemed to spend all their time and energy continually rebranding, forming and disbanding consortiums, creating new websites and logos. They never just got on with it. Ridiculous wasted effort when the market was pos…

Eh, I used my Jolla phone for 5 years and I still regret it to this day

Re: The Search for a Free/Open Source Mobile Operating System

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Post by pojntfx »

kgarten wrote: post #26

Switched to GrapheneOS with the Pixel 5. Email/Calendar integration works fine (K-9 Mail). Signal as instant messenger. Organic Maps as Map application. Replaced Apple Watch with GadgetBridge and a Mi 6 band (cheaper and I have easy access to all data, you need to sync once with their app after you get the key you can delete it ... did the setup on the iphone and copied out the key with a commandline python script fr…

I can recommend "Open Camera" for the Camera app, its very customizable and reliable.

Re: The Search for a Free/Open Source Mobile Operating System

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Post by cycomanic »

I wonder about SailfishOS, has anyone tried it recently? I used to own a Nokia N9 and it was the best mobile OS I've ever used, but unfortunately the N9 just stopped charging one day. I've always been thinking about trying Sailfish out again, but have not had a phone that was compatible for a while, so am wondering if I should just get a compatible device just to try.

Re: The Search for a Free/Open Source Mobile Operating System

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Post by saladuh »

commoner wrote: post #7
saladuh wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is awesome! Thanks for sharing this. I didn't know we were this close to viable linux phones. There's those tiny handful of android apps you may need and this pretty much solves it. I wonder if microg is working in waydroid? I'd assume it's possible.

Not sure about WayDroid, but microG is confirmed to be working on Anbox after patching the default device image to enable signature spoofing: https://forum.pine64.org/showthread.php?tid=9815&pid=65378#p... Anbox can also be used with Google Play Services. The Arch Linux AUR offers a recipe for building an Anbox image with Google apps (see PKGBUILD for code): https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/anbox-image-gapps/ The A…

Thanks. I knew anbox worked with GApps, good to know microg works too

Re: The Search for a Free/Open Source Mobile Operating System

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Post by chairhairair »

kgarten wrote: post #41
chairhairair wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, what does Flutter have to do with the rest of your comment?

Sorry, this was a bit out of context. As the other commenter assumed, it is for replacing/extending the functionality of the phone. For example, I wanted to access the heartrate and other mi band data and it's quite easy with gadgetbridge and my own flutter app. I tried similar apps before with SwiftUI and the Apple Watch and it was pretty much a disaster (although I have working knowledge of objective C ...). Dart c…

Does GrapheneOS need its own Flutter embedder, or can Android's be used?

Sorry, I'm not very familiar with GrapheneOS but I'm curious how easy it is to build Flutter apps on different platforms.

Re: The Search for a Free/Open Source Mobile Operating System

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Post by commoner »

istillwritecode wrote: post #49

Android does not require an account. It only requires an account to use the play store.

Yes, and with Aurora Store, you can use the anonymous login feature to avoid needing your own Google account to get apps from the Play Store.

https://auroraoss.com/guides/anonymous-logins/

Re: The Search for a Free/Open Source Mobile Operating System

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Post by commoner »

mmcallister wrote: post #42
yyyk wrote: post #38

>It does come with a catch... Using Aurora Store could be considered a violation of the Google Terms of Service and Google could terminate your account for it. Aurora has the option of logging in using an anonymous profile instead of your 'true' account. Why not use that and avoid any risk?

What if you have a paid application?

According to other users, if you previously purchased an app through the Play Store, you can log in to Aurora Store with the Google account that you used to purchase the app, and then download it through Aurora Store. However, in-app purchases don't work.

https://www.reddit.com/r/CalyxOS/comments/jtq1xc/can_you_get...

Re: The Search for a Free/Open Source Mobile Operating System

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Post by kgarten »

chairhairair wrote: post #55
kgarten wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, this was a bit out of context. As the other commenter assumed, it is for replacing/extending the functionality of the phone. For example, I wanted to access the heartrate and other mi band data and it's quite easy with gadgetbridge and my own flutter app. I tried similar apps before with SwiftUI and the Apple Watch and it was pretty much a disaster (although I have working knowledge of objective C ...). Dart c…

Does GrapheneOS need its own Flutter embedder, or can Android's be used? Sorry, I'm not very familiar with GrapheneOS but I'm curious how easy it is to build Flutter apps on different platforms.

It uses Android's. It works like a regular Android smartphone, you enable Developer Mode + USB debugging. Android Studio recognizes the phone and complies /runs your application.

Re: The Search for a Free/Open Source Mobile Operating System

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Post by boudin »

cycomanic wrote: post #53

I wonder about SailfishOS, has anyone tried it recently? I used to own a Nokia N9 and it was the best mobile OS I've ever used, but unfortunately the N9 just stopped charging one day. I've always been thinking about trying Sailfish out again, but have not had a phone that was compatible for a while, so am wondering if I should just get a compatible device just to try.

Just as a side note, Sailfish is not fully open source.

Re: The Search for a Free/Open Source Mobile Operating System

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Post by kgarten »

chairhairair wrote: post #55
kgarten wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry, this was a bit out of context. As the other commenter assumed, it is for replacing/extending the functionality of the phone. For example, I wanted to access the heartrate and other mi band data and it's quite easy with gadgetbridge and my own flutter app. I tried similar apps before with SwiftUI and the Apple Watch and it was pretty much a disaster (although I have working knowledge of objective C ...). Dart c…

Does GrapheneOS need its own Flutter embedder, or can Android's be used? Sorry, I'm not very familiar with GrapheneOS but I'm curious how easy it is to build Flutter apps on different platforms.

GrapheneOS is just Android without google services (so some libraries etc. might not work). For my purposes good enough.
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