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Post by selfhoster11 »

queuebert wrote: post #538
selfhoster11 wrote: post #315

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I rather like my reaction GIFs and discussion threads. What I want to see is a modern IRC with these features, and an optional per-channel/per-server message persistence to deal with not knowing what happened while you were away, or while the mobile IRC app of your choice was killed by the Google/Apple background task manager that only allows you to dodge it with proprietary push support.

This is Slack, mostly, kinda.

Slack also smacks of terrible usability, and is proprietary up the wazoo. There is no way to automate anything on it unless your organisation gives some approval.

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Post by kmstout »

fsiefken wrote: post #433
habibur wrote: post #293

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We need to revive the ad free, commercial interest free Internet of the 90s. It will be small in size, but so was the internet back then. Someone should come up with a pub-sub distribute micro blogging service like how emails work.

gemini https://gemini.circumlunar.space/ fediverse: mastodon, pleroma, pixelfed indieweb: https://indieweb.org/ twtxt: https://indieweb.org/twtxt scuttlebutt https://scuttlebutt.nz/ hypercore https://hypercore-protocol.org/ (see iris.to for an implementation) https://quitsocialmedia.club/solutions

Also, hit up a bulletin board or two: https://www.ipingthereforeiam.com/bbs/?step=name&all=0

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Post by BuyMyBitcoins »

ryan93 wrote: post #496
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #378

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It lets them track you across sites that use their iframes.

Scary. Patagonia might show me an ad when i read the WSJ since i follow their twitter account.

Where I go on the Internet outside of Twitter dot com is none of their business.

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Post by tomc1985 »

notriddle wrote: post #556
tomc1985 wrote: post #523

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> easy enough for the average layperson to use At one point it was easy enough for the average person to use, because the average person had to deal with a command-line. But tech, in its infinite quest to Make More Money, keeps chasing the dumbest of the dumb so that it can expand its market into an imagined infinity. It kinds of reminds me of the windshield repair shop that takes a baseball bat to nearby windshields…

Having better things to do with your time than learning an obscure CLI is not the same thing as being dumb.

Really? We almost saw a resurgence with the chatbot craze that recently passed. And frankly command-line is something that GUIs do easily, or have we as a field forgotten that too?

People have such a gap-filled view of the past. I barely had to learn any IRC command-line stuff because of mIRC

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by aendruk »

ryan93 wrote: post #367
bastard_op wrote: post #110

So can people please quit posting twitter feeds finally? Some of us still have never used or signed up with twitter, or feel the need to, and really don't want to. Bad enough they removed non-javascript access, since they are permablocked through noscript here, I simply close postings on HN that link there and curse them for bothering. Asking for a login atop that is just a 4x non-starter for "news" links. Yes, some…

I don’t understand the HB obsession with not creating accounts or reading Twitter. I haven’t logged into Twitter in years I stay logged in. Also reading Twitter is trivial people have consumed countless billions of tweets. Yet for some reason programmers on HN struggle with it.

Twitter destroyed in myopic greed what was once a sensible service that shared in our vision of an open web. The “struggle” you refer to is protest.

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Post by recursive »

ryan93 wrote: post #367
bastard_op wrote: post #110

So can people please quit posting twitter feeds finally? Some of us still have never used or signed up with twitter, or feel the need to, and really don't want to. Bad enough they removed non-javascript access, since they are permablocked through noscript here, I simply close postings on HN that link there and curse them for bothering. Asking for a login atop that is just a 4x non-starter for "news" links. Yes, some…

I don’t understand the HB obsession with not creating accounts or reading Twitter. I haven’t logged into Twitter in years I stay logged in. Also reading Twitter is trivial people have consumed countless billions of tweets. Yet for some reason programmers on HN struggle with it.

I am just as confused as to how literally multiple people have figured out how to use and navigate Twitter. I have probably failed at many other things in my life too though. Maybe it's me.

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Post by shostack »

garciasn wrote: post #76
logicalmonster wrote: post #8

Managements always work toward managing towards what they can measure. I’m sure that daily signups are a metric that they track, hence they’ll prioritize signups even at the cost of user frustration and love, something that’s less tangible. This is the kind of thing that kept me off Quora forever. It’s a great resource but I don’t feel like logging in 100% of the time. So now I just ignore all of their links.

It's because they need to start collecting more first-party data from users who land on their site. This is a result of Apple (and others in the future) blocking third-party cookie tracking. They are doing this SOLELY because of the need for audience creation, marketing attribution, and ad revenue.

Bingo. They need this for user-level measurement and targeting. Wouldn't be surprised if this also supports part of their audience extension work with twitter audience platform as well.
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