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Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

#531

A lot of folks seem to forget that Twitter also has electricity bills they have to pay directly or indirectly. Serving every tweet, along with everything else you see on the internet, does cost money. Usually it’s so small we don’t worry about it but it’s certainly not zero.

> A lot of folks seem to forget that Twitter also has electricity bills they have to pay directly or indirectly.

The cost of running Twitter could be very small, if they optimized for that.. cost of the engineers is harder to keep down.

But the real problem is probably that they got investors, went IPO and somehow need to produce significant returns.

Maybe Twitter can produce higher returns with a more captured user-base and a less open platform.

It just seems sad, that we're putting walls all over internet.

In any case, I doubt it's cost of operations that causes it. More likely too much investment.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

#532

Twitter has to be one of the most dystopian apps ever created. Not just from a UX perspective, but from a cultural perspective as well. Some of the most evil people I’ve ever come across are avid users of Twitter and wield it like a sword to destroy people’s lives. I’m confident it’s been a net negative for society.

Are Twitter, Facebook and Reddit meaningfully different in this regard?

I think they have different affinities to different demographics, but the toxic behavior is quite similar among all of them.

Is there something about Twitter in particular that makes it particularly toxic, or is it inherent to platforms where people compete for attention in the public square?

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

#533

When Reddit started doing this it effectively broke my redditing habit. I know these things are annoying but for anyone who is trying to use social media less... Twitter, Reddit, and Instagram are almost unusable without their apps. They are basically useless if you dont sign in on the browser on your phone. It's great if you want to get off them.

I almost hesitate to share these because I too found that Reddit's dark patterns were a large part of what helped me break that habit. I recently discovered teddit.net which is a frontend for reddit with all dark patterns removed. There is also an alternative front end for twitter called nitter.net that you can use the same way to avoid the app / login.

Is there no similar frontend for facebook? It seems like its impossible to view facebook posts and timelines without an account.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

#535

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I'm using old.reddit.com, and it's ok. Shame if they would turn that off though.

I exclusively use new Reddit. The increased friction around every single interaction is great for limiting the amount of time I spend there: it raises the bar for deciding to actually view a discussion, and the incomprehensible nesting-collapse algorithm keeps me from going down rabbit holes in threads unless it's something that genuinely interests me. It's similar to my YouTube usage. All the pre-roll ads ensure I o…

Sounds like how I like my afternoon coffee, bitter without any additives. It reminds me I need to leave work if I've finished the important stuff for the day. A much needed kick in the guts that makes you purse your lips as you drink it down that puts the rest of the day in perspective.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

#536

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the hive-mind propaganda circle jerk took over, and many dont even realize they are still jerkin'

I'd argue that any site with like/dislike functions which influence the visibility of posts end up this way.

A lot of it has to do with being able to see the points. People think “it has a lot of points so it must be right”, which is rarely true, especially on Reddit. HN hides the points on comments and has a bit of unpredictability to the sorting to allow things to float up provided they haven’t been flagged/downvote bombed. I think it is the largest reason HN is still healthy, other than the great moderation.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

#537

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For reddit, IMO the simplest things you can do to improve the experience is to force the old reddit design (old.reddit.com) when on desktop, and use any app except the official app when on mobile.

I use old.reddit on mobile as well. Personally I prefer panning & zooming on the desktop version of a site to the mobile design in general

You might like i.reddit.com

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

#538

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Ok, shows over. Everyone back to IRC.

I rather like my reaction GIFs and discussion threads. What I want to see is a modern IRC with these features, and an optional per-channel/per-server message persistence to deal with not knowing what happened while you were away, or while the mobile IRC app of your choice was killed by the Google/Apple background task manager that only allows you to dodge it with proprietary push support.

This is Slack, mostly, kinda.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

#540

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It is immune, precisely because it's a protocol. Freenode is dead but switching to another network is literally as simple as pointing the client to a different domain name.

So the same as the HTTP protocol (i.e. switching from a website like Twitter to another, similar, website).

TIL people use twitter for its "HTTP protocol". Great comparison!
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