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Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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> Why is everyone so confused that smart TVs are popular? Because almost all of them use internet connectivity to show you ads on home screens.

I disconnect from WiFi. It makes my “smart” tv a normal one that doesn’t serve my shitty ads, lag or turn on some random SamsungTV channel.

Just because you disconnected it from wifi does not mean they cannot connect it through lte without your knowledge

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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post #356

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> the latter is uncollectable since it's just streaming from your own server. Except smart TVs take screenshots of what you are watching and send it back for content analysis and correlation. So even if all you're doing is using it as a dumb monitor they are still collecting data about you. Edit: Before someone calls me a tinfoil hat, it's called automatic content recognition, look it up.

consumerreports privacy "how to turn off smart tv snooping" https://www.consumerreports.org/privacy/how-to-turn-off-smar...

Opt-out dark patterns strike again! Even then, it still doesn't shut off all telemetry.

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

#383

This thread feels very...Hacker News Bubble? Why is everyone so confused that smart TVs are popular? Being able to just turn on your TV and open Netflix without messing around with inputs/other devices is a huge benefit for non-technological people. And it probably costs <$50 for the manufacturer to include whatever chip is running linux in the TV, its a no-brainer.

> Why is everyone so confused that smart TVs are popular? Also the real reason that they're popular: there are no non-smart TVs available.

Like death and taxes are popular.

And now with embedded ads.

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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The software in the newer LG OLEDs is so good I haven't bothered hooking up any of my boxes to my new TVs. I'm sure in a few years the UI will start to feel sluggish and it will be time to plug something in, but for now its a great experience, far better than any smart TV I've used before.

I'll partly agree there, the OS is generally solid but the apps individually can leave a lot to be desired. My go-to example on LG OLED is Spotify. It's so not OLED friendly, it's essentially OLED-hostile. The UI during playback is completely static and nearly seems designed to cause burn-in.

There are so many things wrong with that app's UX. I would rather listen to worse quality on Youtube than bother opening that app.

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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I disconnect from WiFi. It makes my “smart” tv a normal one that doesn’t serve my shitty ads, lag or turn on some random SamsungTV channel.

Just because you disconnected it from wifi does not mean they cannot connect it through lte without your knowledge

See previous discussion about this problem here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27701977

TL;DR- TVs are using their own cellular connections and/or neighboring open wireless networks.

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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post #384

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I'll partly agree there, the OS is generally solid but the apps individually can leave a lot to be desired. My go-to example on LG OLED is Spotify. It's so not OLED friendly, it's essentially OLED-hostile. The UI during playback is completely static and nearly seems designed to cause burn-in.

There are so many things wrong with that app's UX. I would rather listen to worse quality on Youtube than bother opening that app.

A 'favorite' of mine: The Spotify mobile app will play little animations and videos behind the playback display for many songs and albums, but not the TV app. It seems like the TV platform is generally neglected by Spotify engineering.

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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I disconnect from WiFi. It makes my “smart” tv a normal one that doesn’t serve my shitty ads, lag or turn on some random SamsungTV channel.

Just because you disconnected it from wifi does not mean they cannot connect it through lte without your knowledge

I guess that's one benefit of not having a usable mobile signal at my house.

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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> Why is everyone so confused that smart TVs are popular? Also the real reason that they're popular: there are no non-smart TVs available.

the next logical question is why are they the only tv's available? the reason is the same reason that phones are getting bigger and laptops are getting thinner. (hint it's not some grand conspiracy to ruin your life or to fuck the consumer) the answer is because that's what people buy.

Wait a minute now. TV manufacturers are mining the frames from video played on them in order to detect which shows people are watching. They then sell that data to 3rd parties (typically advertisers and data brokers). It's maybe not some "grand conspiracy", but there is a definite profit motive to push smart TVs and only smart TVs. It is far more profitable than a one time sale since you can sell data over and over. I only personally learned this after meeting some engineers working on such a data mining project, but its fairly well documented:

https://www.businessinsider.com/smart-tv-data-collection-adv...

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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The software in the newer LG OLEDs is so good I haven't bothered hooking up any of my boxes to my new TVs. I'm sure in a few years the UI will start to feel sluggish and it will be time to plug something in, but for now its a great experience, far better than any smart TV I've used before.

The magic remote kind of ruins my LG TV for me. I like the UI, but hate that bumping my remote brings up that darn cursor that flies around the screen.

It's switched on after powering up the TV, but then I just press twice the down-arrow on the remote and then the cursor disappears and appears only if I use the scroll wheel (which I never do)... .

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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> Why is everyone so confused that smart TVs are popular? Also the real reason that they're popular: there are no non-smart TVs available.

the next logical question is why are they the only tv's available? the reason is the same reason that phones are getting bigger and laptops are getting thinner. (hint it's not some grand conspiracy to ruin your life or to fuck the consumer) the answer is because that's what people buy.

Actually, it's because they show you ads. For example:

https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00225587

https://www.theverge.com/tldr/2021/3/10/22323790/lg-oled-tv-...

https://digiday.com/future-of-tv/samsung-pitches-advertisers...

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