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Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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This is why i only buy "Dumb" TV's and connect a third-party "smart" device to them (Firestick, etc) Smart device wants to do some crap like this, in the recycle bin it goes but the TV which cost far more is still good. Many of these manufacturers also have a well documented history of not supporting anything they sold, in an attempt to push new products (buy an android phone and see how many updates it actually gets…

The problem is finding non smart TVs anymore. It used to be that WalMart would have a tv or two that were still just display devices but I haven't seen a non smart tv for sale in quite a while. Honestly, I'm not a big one for regulation, but I think those TVs should have a large print notification somewhere that says they're spying on you - although people would probably accept the convenience tradeoff.

It would be cool if we end up with an OpenWRT-type situation for Smart TVs. We establish some rooting procedures for some popular models, and then root it or replace the OS.

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I mean, most people just use Netflix and Hulu and Plex from their smart TV anyways. The former 2 are already collecting your viewing habits, and the latter is uncollectable since it's just streaming from your own server.

> the latter is uncollectable since it's just streaming from your own server. Except smart TVs take screenshots of what you are watching and send it back for content analysis and correlation. So even if all you're doing is using it as a dumb monitor they are still collecting data about you. Edit: Before someone calls me a tinfoil hat, it's called automatic content recognition, look it up.

consumerreports privacy "how to turn off smart tv snooping"

https://www.consumerreports.org/privacy/how-to-turn-off-smar...

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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My non-tech extended family members all use separate Roku and/or FireTV devices instead of the built-in TV functionality, because I've seen the devices. I don't know why, but they do.

Maybe because the Roku interface actually works properly, whereas the apps on the smart TV are slow and buggy.

I bought a "premium" Roku box brand new for I believe $90 so I could have one with an ethernet cable. That was 3 years ago and it's currently supremely buggy. It goes green, black, crashes mid episode, if I skip a few times within a few seconds the audio might desync. It was already bad but I got a new speaker system and hooked it up to an AV receiver and it instantly got several times worse. I don't know if my experience is typical but 3 years is a disappointing lifetime for something like this IMO.

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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This thread feels very...Hacker News Bubble? Why is everyone so confused that smart TVs are popular? Being able to just turn on your TV and open Netflix without messing around with inputs/other devices is a huge benefit for non-technological people. And it probably costs <$50 for the manufacturer to include whatever chip is running linux in the TV, its a no-brainer.

> Why is everyone so confused that smart TVs are popular? Also the real reason that they're popular: there are no non-smart TVs available.

the next logical question is why are they the only tv's available? the reason is the same reason that phones are getting bigger and laptops are getting thinner. (hint it's not some grand conspiracy to ruin your life or to fuck the consumer) the answer is because that's what people buy.

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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This thread feels very...Hacker News Bubble? Why is everyone so confused that smart TVs are popular? Being able to just turn on your TV and open Netflix without messing around with inputs/other devices is a huge benefit for non-technological people. And it probably costs <$50 for the manufacturer to include whatever chip is running linux in the TV, its a no-brainer.

There are almost no tv manufacturers offering consumer TVs without the ability to connect to the internet to collect metrics, display ads, and run “apps” like Netflix. I don’t doubt it’s because the upsell is profitable and regular consumers would choose the TV with smart features over a similarly priced TV without, but it’s also possible no one has decided to compete on the “our TV is $40 cheaper, comes with a rebat…

isn't it going to be "our TV costs $40 more, but..."?

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Sounds like something out of China.

Do China have a society built on advertising stuff you don't want or need on TV and radio and in magazines and movies, and at ballgames, and on buses, and milk cartons, and T-shirts, and bananas, and written in the sky?

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Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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Never again will I buy anything Samsung. They have steadfastly refused to fix my fridge's ice maker even though they have admitted it's a design fault, and retailers will not take it back as faulty because the ice maker is not considered vital to the functioning of the refrigerator in general.

New Zealand has a bit of legislation called the Consumer Guarantees Act, and it specifies something to the effect of ‘the thing should have a lifespan commensurate with the price, free of defects or faults’. It’s really great - the downside is that we pay more for things than people overseas do. I vastly prefer that we have it.

Would be interesting to know if big manufacturers then only sell their most dependable models in the NZ market, in order to avoid the costs that they can avoid in more business-friendly markets like the US.

It would be a good way to decide which products to buy. Is this (equivalent) model sold in New Zealand? If so, it's probably known by the manufacturer to be solid. If not, avoid it at all costs.

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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what does #RebuildSouthAfrica mean? Why is this post tagged with this? Weird

South Africa is apparently having large riots and looting going on right now. This video popped up in my YouTube recommendations last week and completely surprised me. I'd tell you more but this video is my only exposure to it so far so I figured I'd just link it than try to say it second hand.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cew-BnjA_q4

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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This thread feels very...Hacker News Bubble? Why is everyone so confused that smart TVs are popular? Being able to just turn on your TV and open Netflix without messing around with inputs/other devices is a huge benefit for non-technological people. And it probably costs <$50 for the manufacturer to include whatever chip is running linux in the TV, its a no-brainer.

> Why is everyone so confused that smart TVs are popular? Because almost all of them use internet connectivity to show you ads on home screens.

With LG C9 I haven't seen a single ad in a year since I've had it. There are large amounts of tracking being blocked by pi.hole however. One LG domain has been blocked 22.5k times in past 8.5 months.

Re: Samsung remotely disables TVs looted from South African warehouse

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Looking forward to the future of consumerism.

Do something out of line? Your tesla car stops working, samsung tv shuts down, social media bans you, central bank cryptocurrency prevents you from making purchases, airlines put you on the no fly list.

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