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I could do that in a weekend (2016)

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Re: I could do that in a weekend (2016)

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Post by jimmygrapes »

MonkeyClub wrote: post #51
adt2bt wrote: post #32

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I had a similar realization with food recently, bear with me. You ever hear how in certain cultures, Mom's food is the best? Now, of course there's nostalgia involved. A hint of home can make your taste buds sing just a bit louder. But also, even for a 'simple' meal, there are so many options a chef can make that subtly change the meal. For example, looking only at one ingredient, you can end up with a dizzying amoun…

> You ever hear how in certain cultures, Mom's food is the best? Just had the semi-shocking realization that the cross-section between those cultures and the cultures where moms are stay at home is quite large.

In a world where children are sent to daycare, Headstart, Pre-K[indergarten] and then Kindergarten all before entering the public/private school system for the next 18 or so years, I have increasingly seen nostalgia for school cafeteria meals from those now in their 20s. Doesn't matter if it's awful quality from the same source as hospital and prison food; they grew up with it as their primary meal source.

Re: I could do that in a weekend (2016)

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Post by adt2bt »

jimmygrapes wrote: post #61
MonkeyClub wrote: post #51

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> You ever hear how in certain cultures, Mom's food is the best? Just had the semi-shocking realization that the cross-section between those cultures and the cultures where moms are stay at home is quite large.

In a world where children are sent to daycare, Headstart, Pre-K[indergarten] and then Kindergarten all before entering the public/private school system for the next 18 or so years, I have increasingly seen nostalgia for school cafeteria meals from those now in their 20s. Doesn't matter if it's awful quality from the same source as hospital and prison food; they grew up with it as their primary meal source.

Exactly. I objectively hate it, but I would eat that square pizza with square pepperoni bits again without a second thought if offered.

Re: I could do that in a weekend (2016)

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Post by criddell »

jacobr1 wrote: post #57
criddell wrote: post #38

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I didn't intend it to be a gotcha question. > Are files, screen sharing, video calls, etc. still "just messages"? I wouldn't think any of those as messages that a basic message-only client would have. I guess that's the distinction I was after - was the person I replied to talking about all the complexity of a basic message-only client, or were they talking about the complexity of all the stuff beyond that.

I suspect most people in the "Slack is a just a pretty IRC," are discounting the non-text-messaging features. Beyond both the items already mentioned and the ease of adoption, the major benefit to slack is the integration ecosystem. SlackOps is a really big thing. Making slack the glue across variety of operational systems to coordinate the activity of a team and allowing that team to communicate about it, provides a…

We never used it for anything except messages. Now we're on Teams.

I'd be curious how many users were like us - messages only?

Re: I could do that in a weekend (2016)

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Post by agumonkey »

jeffreyrogers wrote: post #8

One other thing he touched on in passing: people are assuming they'd know what to build from the start. Even in relatively trivial applications a lot of work goes into finding the right way to express what you're trying to build. I recently worked on a small app and spent 40 hours trying out different approaches to the user interface. The solution I went with could be coded up in about 2 hours, but I had to do 38 hou…

yes, it's akin to when people describe discovery / invention as cutting away the cruft to isolate the gem. when you get the gem, everything fits, it's small, solid, shiny.. but it took hundreds of cuts.

Re: I could do that in a weekend (2016)

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Post by ivanalejandro0 »

bern4444 wrote: post #23

Fun article, but exceptionally difficult to read. I know some people like using plain ol html, but just a few lines of CSS would vastly improve the reading experience. I know its from 2016, but still. Eyes read best when content is a few hundred pixels long. Content should be centered etc. It's pretty terrible as it is

If you use Firefox, there's the "reader view" feature that kinds of do what you want for a great number of websites. See: https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-reader-view-clu...

Re: I could do that in a weekend (2016)

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Post by otabdeveloper4 »

SilasX wrote: post #48
slongfield wrote: post #16

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“I didn't have time to write you a simple UI, so I wrote you a complicated one instead.” -- Mark Twain, paraphrased.

Except today more often I see "Our devs put together a basically usable UI, then we ramped up and hired a full time UXer, and it sucks now."

I've seen that happen a thousand times, yes. (Slightly exaggerating, but still.)

I guess we'll just have to wait until people get used to the idea that the Web is an interactive document format, not a replacement for the GUI. I'm hoping the modern SPA trends pass into the void like the Macromedia Flash UI trends did.

Re: I could do that in a weekend (2016)

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Post by ozim »

pphysch wrote: post #17

> A company that could eliminate organizational inefficiency would be a larger innovation than any tech startup, ever. Fully agree, and would extend to any social organization. One of the most important aspects of organizational efficiency is managing the signal/noise ratio of internal communications. We now have the ability to turn effective bureaucratic protocols into material reality with automated information sys…

That is why you want to have one pizza size teams. Those teams should also be as independent as possible.

Unfortunately it takes quite a bit of orchestration on higher level of abstraction and having well organized management.

Re: I could do that in a weekend (2016)

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Post by ozim »

tofuahdude wrote: post #7

We were just having this discussion around the Postman fundraise - various people saying "its just a GUI around Curl!!!" and being all offended at the raise's price tag. There's so much more that goes into building an actual business.

Well yeah I could do Postman in the weekend. Really I hate Postman and I have it on my todo list. I also try not to use it unless someone sends me his Postman collection.

Thing is, I could do that for myself and I would be the only user and I would never turn it into a company.

Because what devs usually say they could do that product in the weekend - but usable only for themselves. While turning software package into successful product that a lot of people would use is totally different story.

Just like playing piano for your friends on the weekend or guitar by the fire that takes maybe couple weeks of training. To become a pop-star well that is just different pair of shoes.

Re: I could do that in a weekend (2016)

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Post by nottorp »

thehappypm wrote: post #54
nottorp wrote: post #47

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It's not a shitty irc clone, it has a lot of useful features (and some not so useful, looking at you threads). Now the client on the other hand...

You don't like threads? I find them useful at times, that's part of what I like about Slack, it has enough potential for customization that you can bend it to your culture. For example, you can use bots that suit your workflows, use threads or not use them, use emoji reactions or not use them, use private threads or small channels, or always large channels..

> You don't like threads?

I would love them if it was actually noticeable when someone else creates a thread to which i'm supposed to contribute...

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