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How Discord Stores Billions of Messages (2017)

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Re: How Discord Stores Billions of Messages (2017)

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Your comments are a public thing you choose to publish to the world, but many (most?) discord messages are not. You'd want them to get deleted.

Sorry but no, I don't want my messages deleted. I use search history all the time even to search for things I personally said. I can get behind deleting messages if the account is deleted though, but as some type of automatic thing based on time in the past? No thanks.

That you wold chose to 'keep your messages' is a little besides the point of those who would opt for more privacy.

Nobody is making the argument you should be forced to delete your messages.

In any normal world, messages that are not used would be deleted as a matter of privacy. They're kept, because they can be kept, and they can be monetized. That monetization has zero benefit to the user, it's just an artifact of our odd way of doing business where we continue to externalize a lot of things. I think over the next 10 years we might see a regulator shift , which also means costs more directly exposed, meaning Discord may cost $1 month, i.e. the externalization 'costed in' like carbon tax on fuels.

Re: How Discord Stores Billions of Messages (2017)

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Can anyone share experiences with using Discord as a communications tool in a workplace? We're currently on Google Chat because it comes with the package that we pay for anyway, but it's pretty lame. So from time to time we consider jumping to Slack. But then, why not Discord?

Discord would be awesome for work ... I want to use it so bad. But the terms of service are completely unpalatable. Discord basically gets a perpetual license to anything you post.

Re: How Discord Stores Billions of Messages (2017)

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IMO its a good competitor to slack. They probably make money from businesses too. They have lots of options for permissions/roles and all kinds of API access to write bots for.

Unless businesses are paying for server boosts[0] (which would only be useful for 1080p60 screen-share or a 50mb upload limit), there's no way to use Discord for business or pay extra for business use outside of creating a free server like any other; there's no real reason to choose Discord for business either, since it has no real retention policy (other than storing messages forever, for now), DLP is non-existent,…

There are "businesses" that have communities, and want to own/manage them. Discord works much better than Slack as a platform for "official" managed open-membership communities; it's seemingly a use-case the Discord staff have put a lot of thought into.

Think: every content-creator or streamer.

But also: regular corporations that provide platform services that people build their own stuff on top of, such that people want to talk to each-other about the service rather than just talking to the corporation about the service. (The sort of thing you used to stand up a hosted forum for.)

Re: How Discord Stores Billions of Messages (2017)

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Can anyone share experiences with using Discord as a communications tool in a workplace? We're currently on Google Chat because it comes with the package that we pay for anyway, but it's pretty lame. So from time to time we consider jumping to Slack. But then, why not Discord?

Discord would be awesome for work ... I want to use it so bad. But the terms of service are completely unpalatable. Discord basically gets a perpetual license to anything you post.

The reason for Discord over Slack, BTW is voice & video. Otherwise Slack is working great.

Re: How Discord Stores Billions of Messages (2017)

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IMO its a good competitor to slack. They probably make money from businesses too. They have lots of options for permissions/roles and all kinds of API access to write bots for.

Unless businesses are paying for server boosts[0] (which would only be useful for 1080p60 screen-share or a 50mb upload limit), there's no way to use Discord for business or pay extra for business use outside of creating a free server like any other; there's no real reason to choose Discord for business either, since it has no real retention policy (other than storing messages forever, for now), DLP is non-existent,…

Yep, I agree about limited industry but it does work in that respect. I see it used a lot for content creators as a way to organize and tier out their fans as well.

Re: How Discord Stores Billions of Messages (2017)

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Honestly, I find discord super frustrating. Can't have multiple chats open at the same time, can't close the right rail, etc. It's UX is subpar in almost every way that matters to me. I use it because _everyone_ uses it, not because I want to.

I can't think of many reasons Discord "ate the whole market" besides smart marketing, honestly. It does audio rooms incredibly well, but everything else (even their developer support team) is just terrible.

I'm not even sure it was a lot of marketing, for the new generation, it's just what they needed, chat+voice+screen on a html5/css3 visual language.

I despise discord quite a lot btw :)

Re: How Discord Stores Billions of Messages (2017)

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Honestly, I find discord super frustrating. Can't have multiple chats open at the same time, can't close the right rail, etc. It's UX is subpar in almost every way that matters to me. I use it because _everyone_ uses it, not because I want to.

I can't think of many reasons Discord "ate the whole market" besides smart marketing, honestly. It does audio rooms incredibly well, but everything else (even their developer support team) is just terrible.

Discord ate the market because it is free and good enough voice quality. Before that everyone was paying for voice server hosting or doing it themselves. Is that smart marketing or just the standard operating procedure for startups around that time?

Re: How Discord Stores Billions of Messages (2017)

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They wouldn't need to store so many if they actually let people delete their messages on account deletion. Instead, they ban many people who attempt to do so via automated scripts.

I don't think they delete anything really. I've retrieved stuff from servers that were ostensibly deleted over a year ago.

Well, data is their greatest asset I'd assume. They don't want that precious user data going anywhere.

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Discord had like $300M invested and they created unparalleled piece of software that ate whole market, damn. One of the most impressive softwares that I've seen and use after years of using ventrilo/mumble/teamspeak.

If that's 2017, imagine what it would be in 2021.

Re: How Discord Stores Billions of Messages (2017)

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Honestly, I find discord super frustrating. Can't have multiple chats open at the same time, can't close the right rail, etc. It's UX is subpar in almost every way that matters to me. I use it because _everyone_ uses it, not because I want to.

Ditto, feels fast and has a lot of features but to me the UX is very confusing.

everytime I open an irc client I feel lighter.. something about the discord web client is so dreadful. the android app focuses more on notifications and quick switches.. a bit better somehow.
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