On top of it, it's not just a matter of creating an account because they get blocked within two minutes until you also give them your phone number, despite the registration pretends it's not required (because once you signed up, it's easier to trick people into giving up yet more information than asking for it upfront).
And this is why things like Sign In With Apple are a godsend* for users, which predatory devs rail against on HN.
* Even though the bait-and-switch can be done there too, but at least you didn’t have to give up your email to the scummy service.
When Reddit started doing this it effectively broke my redditing habit. I know these things are annoying but for anyone who is trying to use social media less... Twitter, Reddit, and Instagram are almost unusable without their apps. They are basically useless if you dont sign in on the browser on your phone. It's great if you want to get off them.
We need to revive the ad free, commercial interest free Internet of the 90s. It will be small in size, but so was the internet back then. Someone should come up with a pub-sub distribute micro blogging service like how emails work.
So can people please quit posting twitter feeds finally? Some of us still have never used or signed up with twitter, or feel the need to, and really don't want to. Bad enough they removed non-javascript access, since they are permablocked through noscript here, I simply close postings on HN that link there and curse them for bothering. Asking for a login atop that is just a 4x non-starter for "news" links. Yes, some…
If, for any reason, you stop using Twitter, your life will be going to be far more pleasant.
It's not just the design, it's the fact that it's buggy and frequently unresponsive. If it was well done I might be able to forgive them, but my phone tells me I have messages I can't see on the desktop even after I refresh the page.
It’s more buggy, less responsive, has less features and consumes more resources. Literally its only pro is that it looks pretty.
> Literally its only pro is that it looks pretty.
Which is very subjective.
New reddit is certainly more modern than old reddit, but I find it kinda ugly.
It would be great if the community here just started downvoting stories that are twitter links. If it's not worth a blog post somewhere, why should we care?
Microblogging is no less legitimate than blogging.
I mean, sure, but that's one tweet. 40 tweets in a row that you're supposed to read in order, comprise one large whole, nothing "micro" about it. I actually respect when someone follows the rules as it were, and spends the effort to post one tweet that conveys a lot concisely with a little. That to me is deserving of the label microblogging. Although unfortunately right alongside that is all the idiotic shallowness, sloganeering and fascistic tendencies posted by people who are like "thank god, a place where the format is as tiny as my thoughts." That's fitting a little into a little, so if there's a counter-argument to be made legitimacy-wise, that's it right there. But spreading something longer over a bunch of tweets, that's just regular blogging, on the wrong platform. I'm not fooled. It's a nuisance. Like when someone decides to pay you $5 as 500 pennies.
I almost hesitate to share these because I too found that Reddit's dark patterns were a large part of what helped me break that habit. I recently discovered teddit.net which is a frontend for reddit with all dark patterns removed. There is also an alternative front end for twitter called nitter.net that you can use the same way to avoid the app / login.
Thanks. I broke my reddit habit when I realized that most of the communities on reddit are just ideological echo chambers where you get banned for saying anything the community doesn't agree with. It lost most of it's value when honest conversations couldn't take place anymore. Now the only time I use reddit is when the only search results with the answer to a question I have point to reddit, and I've grown very wear…
the hive-mind propaganda circle jerk took over, and many dont even realize they are still jerkin'
>I mean what do you want them to actually do instead? Nothing. Hire more moderators maybe. it also looks dishonest to frame it this way when twitter asks these pii for "spam protection" and yet still can't ban obvious Fiverr-like spam accounts > Like what other things can we ask for that actually work and aren’t more invasive? Nothing, somehow plenty of websites do fine without even asking for email, including this o…
They've already rejected doing nothing, as it doesn't work. I want Tesla to give me a free car too, but it ain't happening. At some point a company makes decisions you aren't gonna agree with and your only recourse is to not use them. If that means you can't read Twitter, then that's the price you pay. You aren't "owed" a free Twitter account solely on your own personal terms.
But all I want to do is read the tweets? I'm not contributing to spam if I don't even have an account.
I want to be able to read the New York Times without a subscription too, yet here we are. Corporations don't have to give all their services to us for free. They can charge, require free registration, whatever.
That doesn’t make the rock-and-hard-place point apply to that situation though, which is what the comment you replied to was a reply to.
But all I want to do is read the tweets? I'm not contributing to spam if I don't even have an account.
I want to be able to read the New York Times without a subscription too, yet here we are. Corporations don't have to give all their services to us for free. They can charge, require free registration, whatever.
People is giving content for free to Twitter. Should they start charging for it? Twitter is not on the same league as the NYT.