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Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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post #353

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Can you even downvote posts here? I thought you can only downvote comments

There is no downvoting for submissions, although I wish there were.

Oh, I assumed for higher karma users they could downvote actual story posts... ohwell

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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The above commenter is correct, the original question is silly, however much flak they may get as people here love IRC. Do you genuinely believe (1) IRC is anywhere near as usable as Twitter for the general population, or that (2) a real-time chat is an equivalent offering to Twitter?

You just need to make an IRC channel that contains everyone in the world.

Make all channels -n and you now have Twitter hashtags, kind of.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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You do understand the question, you've just decided to respond in a silly way.

The above commenter is correct, the original question is silly, however much flak they may get as people here love IRC. Do you genuinely believe (1) IRC is anywhere near as usable as Twitter for the general population, or that (2) a real-time chat is an equivalent offering to Twitter?

I'm beginning to seriously believe the general population doesn't deserve services like Twitter and giving it to them was a mistake. When something can be had so easily there is no respect for it. A lack of respect for the technology and a lack of thoughtfulness into its implications have caused a lot of harm. The hope of the internet was that it would increase communication and understanding. But nobody is communicating. They are talking at each other. They should be listening but have just become more self absorbed.

So in a way IRC is better. If for no other reason because it required some personal discipline and will to learn to use and it segmented the internet to prevent these monstrous echo chambers. Humans aren't ready for a global forum. We are still only good at small communities.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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It's worse: Twitter staff sold private user PII to the Saudi government (the one that assassinates journalists): https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/alexkantrowitz/how-saud...

Remind me again, why did we leave IRC?

You don't have to be on twitter. If we can get more people off that platform, then the world has become a better place. I deleted mine years ago. Never felt better.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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You just need to make an IRC channel that contains everyone in the world.

No, it would be one channel per person. Only you would be able to talk (post) in your channel. People who want to read your posts would join your channel. Private DMs easily map to one-on-one privmsgs. Public replies and threads won't have an equivalent unless there was some meta-protocol to temporarily allow another person to talk in your channel + duplicate your posts in your channel to theirs + expire that access…

Channels are basically tags, without history for those who join. Anyone can PRIVMSG a channel by default, it is prevented by setting the common +n mode.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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On top of it, it's not just a matter of creating an account because they get blocked within two minutes until you also give them your phone number, despite the registration pretends it's not required (because once you signed up, it's easier to trick people into giving up yet more information than asking for it upfront).

You can remove your phone number easily under account settings.

This trickery is still a very effective way to get phone information for masses of people, but on the individual level, it's possible to avoid.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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The above commenter is correct, the original question is silly, however much flak they may get as people here love IRC. Do you genuinely believe (1) IRC is anywhere near as usable as Twitter for the general population, or that (2) a real-time chat is an equivalent offering to Twitter?

I'm beginning to seriously believe the general population doesn't deserve services like Twitter and giving it to them was a mistake. When something can be had so easily there is no respect for it. A lack of respect for the technology and a lack of thoughtfulness into its implications have caused a lot of harm. The hope of the internet was that it would increase communication and understanding. But nobody is communica…

If this is your takeaway you’re following toxic people. I have learned a lot and changed my mind on several issues just from Twitter discourse.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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I almost hesitate to share these because I too found that Reddit's dark patterns were a large part of what helped me break that habit. I recently discovered teddit.net which is a frontend for reddit with all dark patterns removed. There is also an alternative front end for twitter called nitter.net that you can use the same way to avoid the app / login.

For reddit, IMO the simplest things you can do to improve the experience is to force the old reddit design (old.reddit.com) when on desktop, and use any app except the official app when on mobile.

I've been using red reader for the better part of a decade. Its far from the flashiest but its clean, easy to read and performant. Its also FOSS. Since my reddit experience revolves mostly around special interest subs with text heavy discussion, it suits my needs well. If you wanted something to scroll through the media heavy meme subs or the front page there are better options.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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post #91

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I created an account in May 2021 without a phone number to follow some people without blogs etc, and it’s still working with just a disposable email. They’ve added sign in/up with Google & Apple recently though.

You can get away with that on a residential IP sometimes, but don’t count on it. Log in from the wrong location or a VPN or do certain patterns of behavior and it drops you.

Fixed wireless ISP in the US and I hit a captcha on every site from time to time when logging in (and sometimes just trying to read-only) - and I'm effectively blocked from anonymous sites.

I can "lock in" an apparent IP address, i.e. ssh to some box with no-ops; but that's either per-connection or still NAT enough that I get flagged. att aggregates all such connections at F5 routers in large cities, mine is in Dallas, for both of my fixed wireless connections.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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When Reddit started doing this it effectively broke my redditing habit. I know these things are annoying but for anyone who is trying to use social media less... Twitter, Reddit, and Instagram are almost unusable without their apps. They are basically useless if you dont sign in on the browser on your phone. It's great if you want to get off them.

I don’t have Chrome installed on any of my devices but I’ve noticed when I’m on reddit.com on my iPhone it prompts me to either use the Reddit app or “continue browsing” using the Chrome app. Does Google pay for this as some sort of an advertisement? Or is Reddit incentivized in some way to plug Chrome over Safari or DDG “browser”? When I click “continue” it lets me just keep using my current browser but I always won…

pretty sure that's reddits doing
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