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Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by 8ytecoder »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #223
f0e4c2f7 wrote: post #67

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I almost hesitate to share these because I too found that Reddit's dark patterns were a large part of what helped me break that habit. I recently discovered teddit.net which is a frontend for reddit with all dark patterns removed. There is also an alternative front end for twitter called nitter.net that you can use the same way to avoid the app / login.

For reddit, IMO the simplest things you can do to improve the experience is to force the old reddit design (old.reddit.com) when on desktop, and use any app except the official app when on mobile.

Yeah, heartily recommend the Apollo app and you don't have to sign in.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by Arnavion »

dorkwood wrote: post #376
lowkey_ wrote: post #297

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The above commenter is correct, the original question is silly, however much flak they may get as people here love IRC. Do you genuinely believe (1) IRC is anywhere near as usable as Twitter for the general population, or that (2) a real-time chat is an equivalent offering to Twitter?

You just need to make an IRC channel that contains everyone in the world.

No, it would be one channel per person. Only you would be able to talk (post) in your channel. People who want to read your posts would join your channel.

Private DMs easily map to one-on-one privmsgs. Public replies and threads won't have an equivalent unless there was some meta-protocol to temporarily allow another person to talk in your channel + duplicate your posts in your channel to theirs + expire that access eventually.

Also subscribing to tags won't work without a similar "copy all messages from one channel to another" relay.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by cpach »

pvarangot wrote: post #260
eurasiantiger wrote: post #218

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Remind me again, why did we leave IRC?

A combination of we couldn't agree on what character encoding to use, and no one made a good mobile client.

Have you tried Irccloud? It’s good! And it’s available for both Android and iOS.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by city41 »

alpaca128 wrote: post #252
foogazi wrote: post #17

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Quora is such a shit show though - what happened there ? Their algo will just continually blast email you every category you ever clicked on

No idea. I used it a while and enjoyed the content, then they changed something in the algorithm and I'd suddenly get basically the same content every single day, often >30% of the feed would be the exact same as the week before. They also removed the list of topics, so there was no obvious way to escape the near static feed. Not sure what they wanted to achieve with that change, but I never visited the site again.

It's a real shame. I used to really enjoy my daily Quora digest email. One of the only automated emails I truly dug into and read in detail. Over time I read it less and less. Then switched it to be weekly, then turned it off. I miss the old Quora.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by cpach »

eurasiantiger wrote: post #218
sneak wrote: post #196

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It's worse: Twitter staff sold private user PII to the Saudi government (the one that assassinates journalists): https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/alexkantrowitz/how-saud...

Remind me again, why did we leave IRC?

I didn’t :-p

TBH: These days I prefer other venues though. E.g. HN, Slack and Facebook groups.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by caymanjim »

ihuman wrote: post #353
splatcollision wrote: post #231

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It would be great if the community here just started downvoting stories that are twitter links. If it's not worth a blog post somewhere, why should we care?

Can you even downvote posts here? I thought you can only downvote comments

There is no downvoting for submissions, although I wish there were.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by staticassertion »

BTCOG wrote: post #122
Spivak wrote: post #95

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I mean what do you want them to actually do instead? Like seriously I’ve implemented at a company I worked for and it’s the least invasive thing to actually rate limit people. Alternatives included: - pay a small fee but that requires a credit card - send us government documents which is worse - mine crypto for a while but it doesn’t stop people who are actually motivated - send a selfie and then do some face matchin…

I just want to be able to occasionally read a few tweets with no required login or account. Just the same with Instagram and similar, I just won't use it and I'll forget about it. I guess Twitter is next. No, I've never had a Twitter account. I don't have a Facebook account.

I don't think Twitter cares that you won't use it. They've almost certainly weighed the cost of a tiny portion of people caring vs a massive reduction in bots.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by Arnavion »

bsanr2 wrote: post #279
bityard wrote: post #258

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Can't tell if you're being ageist on purpose but "the beards" don't _have_ to use IRCCloud and can just keep using their TUI clients and bouncer daemons if they want instead of having their UX change weekly at the whim of some resume-driven front-end team.

Well, here's one issue: I can tell you what a reply and hashtag is but I'm going to fail the quiz that asks me to define a TUI client. (And don't get the Chrsmistian Fundamentalists hellbent on taking downn Tumblr et al. starter anything involving a "daemon".)

The point was that the stereotypical "beards" in question can continue using their TUI clients, not that someone who doesn't know what a TUI client is should be forced to use one.
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