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Post by rchaud »

habibur wrote: post #293
eurasiantiger wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remind me again, why did we leave IRC?

We need to revive the ad free, commercial interest free Internet of the 90s. It will be small in size, but so was the internet back then. Someone should come up with a pub-sub distribute micro blogging service like how emails work.

The only way to do this is with blogrolls/linkrolls and other decentralized mechanisms. Making a centralized repo of links like a Yahoo! style web directory is only going to lead to that directory monetizing its gatekeeper status.

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Post by asdff »

shadowgovt wrote: post #155
bastard_op wrote: post #110

So can people please quit posting twitter feeds finally? Some of us still have never used or signed up with twitter, or feel the need to, and really don't want to. Bad enough they removed non-javascript access, since they are permablocked through noscript here, I simply close postings on HN that link there and curse them for bothering. Asking for a login atop that is just a 4x non-starter for "news" links. Yes, some…

Unfortunately, given the nature of network effects, I suspect those who use Twitter will continue to use it, news media will continue to treat it as a primary source for comments from people, and those of us who wish to refrain from using it just... Won't have access to that channel of data. I don't see a scenario where a mass-walkout happens... Certainly not from this. It'll be like the good old days of only finding…

Is that so bad though? Nothing I idly read about online much less twitter has any bearing on my daily life. It's mindless content masking as some important cultural zeitgeist. It's no different than netflix or any other time sink.

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Post by chalst »

andruby wrote: post #314
povik wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also at top of the list: “We care about your privacy” (and not that we are required by law to give you these options that follow)

"We value your privacy" is even better. That's actually an honest one, since they know exactly what the value is of the PII that they sell to third parties.

"They know the price of everything and the value of nothing."

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Post by kevin_thibedeau »

garciasn wrote: post #76
logicalmonster wrote: post #8

Managements always work toward managing towards what they can measure. I’m sure that daily signups are a metric that they track, hence they’ll prioritize signups even at the cost of user frustration and love, something that’s less tangible. This is the kind of thing that kept me off Quora forever. It’s a great resource but I don’t feel like logging in 100% of the time. So now I just ignore all of their links.

It's because they need to start collecting more first-party data from users who land on their site. This is a result of Apple (and others in the future) blocking third-party cookie tracking. They are doing this SOLELY because of the need for audience creation, marketing attribution, and ad revenue.

Broadcast radio, television, and print newspapers still exist without these things.

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Post by Arrath »

officeplant wrote: post #368
bsanr2 wrote: post #279

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, here's one issue: I can tell you what a reply and hashtag is but I'm going to fail the quiz that asks me to define a TUI client. (And don't get the Chrsmistian Fundamentalists hellbent on taking downn Tumblr et al. starter anything involving a "daemon".)

Begone print daemon, thou shall not infect mine systems.

This is a crusade I could get behind.

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Post by amatecha »

9034725985 wrote: post #109
wildpeaks wrote: post #64

On top of it, it's not just a matter of creating an account because they get blocked within two minutes until you also give them your phone number, despite the registration pretends it's not required (because once you signed up, it's easier to trick people into giving up yet more information than asking for it upfront).

Personally, I don’t mind giving them my phone number because my number is already public information. It sucks though that I can’t get tweets by text. This was the original use case of twitter. I understand SMS is not secure enough to publish tweets but why can we no longer get texts when someone tweets?

I'm pretty sure you can still get SMS notifications by turning it on in your Settings[0] and then also clicking on the "Notifications" button on the specific profile for which you want to receive notifications. I haven't used it in ages but all the settings appear to be there still :)

[0] https://twitter.com/settings/sms_notifications

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Post by conradfr »

b3morales wrote: post #170
throw149102 wrote: post #128

Honestly, this seems like a plus for humanity. I don't think Twitter has really improved the world in any significant way, and maybe made it worse. Anything that prevents the twitter universe from seeping into mine is a good change.

Realistically, though, is this going to: - decrease Twitter usage, or - increase Twitter signups They apparently have calculated that they have enough mass that people will be dragged towards the latter.

I guess it worked for Instagram so they're copying them?

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Post by root_axis »

turminal wrote: post #337
danellis wrote: post #330

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So the same as the HTTP protocol (i.e. switching from a website like Twitter to another, similar, website).

Comparing protocols like that is comparing apples to oranges, but I think I see your point. When people say 'I miss IRC', they don't necessarily mean the technicalities of the protocol though.

It's not apples to oranges, it's directly analogous: both represent federated networks on the internet where users have the freedom to decide which client they want to use and which servers they want to connect to.

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Post by d883kd8 »

AlwaysRock wrote: post #4

When Reddit started doing this it effectively broke my redditing habit. I know these things are annoying but for anyone who is trying to use social media less... Twitter, Reddit, and Instagram are almost unusable without their apps. They are basically useless if you dont sign in on the browser on your phone. It's great if you want to get off them.

Remarkably, Reddit has managed to organize two teams of programmers competing to make a worse experience between their app and website
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