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Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by CodesInChaos »

tootie wrote: post #305
AlwaysRock wrote: post #4

When Reddit started doing this it effectively broke my redditing habit. I know these things are annoying but for anyone who is trying to use social media less... Twitter, Reddit, and Instagram are almost unusable without their apps. They are basically useless if you dont sign in on the browser on your phone. It's great if you want to get off them.

Reddit seems perfectly usable as an unauthenticated user. I know they present a more spammy version to users landing from google, but nothing is blocked behind more than a click or two. I think that's just good business sense because you want to monetize your firehose of less engaged users and coddle the ones that are more engaged and producing content.

> Reddit seems perfectly usable as an unauthenticated user.

On desktop. The main mobile version blocks essential features, like browsing subreddits or viewing all comments on a post.

(Alternatives like old.reddit, i.reddit and teddit aren't completely broken but aren't great on mobile either)

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by axpy906 »

ZWoz wrote: post #210
wildpeaks wrote: post #64

On top of it, it's not just a matter of creating an account because they get blocked within two minutes until you also give them your phone number, despite the registration pretends it's not required (because once you signed up, it's easier to trick people into giving up yet more information than asking for it upfront).

I have noticed that most those services (twitter, Skype and so on) block login without giving phone number...until few months later they automatically unblock. I simply check out in every week, are they removed block or not. Once I was stupid and gave phone number one of those kind services, that was bad idea. Account went into some weird state after giving code received from SMS. So my personal experience: wait, nev…

Ideally, there should be an option to not give it. It’s a security risk for those with MFA elsewhere.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by flyinglizard »

bsanr2 wrote: post #279
bityard wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't tell if you're being ageist on purpose but "the beards" don't _have_ to use IRCCloud and can just keep using their TUI clients and bouncer daemons if they want instead of having their UX change weekly at the whim of some resume-driven front-end team.

Well, here's one issue: I can tell you what a reply and hashtag is but I'm going to fail the quiz that asks me to define a TUI client. (And don't get the Chrsmistian Fundamentalists hellbent on taking downn Tumblr et al. starter anything involving a "daemon".)

This sounds like the release candidate of GPT-3 which hasn’t made it.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by [deleted] »

Sohcahtoa82 wrote: post #223
f0e4c2f7 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I almost hesitate to share these because I too found that Reddit's dark patterns were a large part of what helped me break that habit. I recently discovered teddit.net which is a frontend for reddit with all dark patterns removed. There is also an alternative front end for twitter called nitter.net that you can use the same way to avoid the app / login.

For reddit, IMO the simplest things you can do to improve the experience is to force the old reddit design (old.reddit.com) when on desktop, and use any app except the official app when on mobile.

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Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by yosito »

f0e4c2f7 wrote: post #67
AlwaysRock wrote: post #4

When Reddit started doing this it effectively broke my redditing habit. I know these things are annoying but for anyone who is trying to use social media less... Twitter, Reddit, and Instagram are almost unusable without their apps. They are basically useless if you dont sign in on the browser on your phone. It's great if you want to get off them.

I almost hesitate to share these because I too found that Reddit's dark patterns were a large part of what helped me break that habit. I recently discovered teddit.net which is a frontend for reddit with all dark patterns removed. There is also an alternative front end for twitter called nitter.net that you can use the same way to avoid the app / login.

Thanks. I broke my reddit habit when I realized that most of the communities on reddit are just ideological echo chambers where you get banned for saying anything the community doesn't agree with. It lost most of it's value when honest conversations couldn't take place anymore. Now the only time I use reddit is when the only search results with the answer to a question I have point to reddit, and I've grown very weary of their tracking and harassing me to use their spyware app. Teddit is a nice way to get the information I'm looking for without being jerked around by those stalkers at reddit. We'll see how long it lasts before being blocked.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by ryan93 »

bastard_op wrote: post #110

So can people please quit posting twitter feeds finally? Some of us still have never used or signed up with twitter, or feel the need to, and really don't want to. Bad enough they removed non-javascript access, since they are permablocked through noscript here, I simply close postings on HN that link there and curse them for bothering. Asking for a login atop that is just a 4x non-starter for "news" links. Yes, some…

I don’t understand the HB obsession with not creating accounts or reading Twitter. I haven’t logged into Twitter in years I stay logged in. Also reading Twitter is trivial people have consumed countless billions of tweets. Yet for some reason programmers on HN struggle with it.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by officeplant »

bsanr2 wrote: post #279
bityard wrote: post #258

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't tell if you're being ageist on purpose but "the beards" don't _have_ to use IRCCloud and can just keep using their TUI clients and bouncer daemons if they want instead of having their UX change weekly at the whim of some resume-driven front-end team.

Well, here's one issue: I can tell you what a reply and hashtag is but I'm going to fail the quiz that asks me to define a TUI client. (And don't get the Chrsmistian Fundamentalists hellbent on taking downn Tumblr et al. starter anything involving a "daemon".)

Begone print daemon, thou shall not infect mine systems.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by iscrewyou »

AlwaysRock wrote: post #4

When Reddit started doing this it effectively broke my redditing habit. I know these things are annoying but for anyone who is trying to use social media less... Twitter, Reddit, and Instagram are almost unusable without their apps. They are basically useless if you dont sign in on the browser on your phone. It's great if you want to get off them.

This is what has prevented me from joining tik tok. Now it also requires a login after you view like three videos. I just close the tab afterwards. It works great!

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by DrBenCarson »

mnd999 wrote: post #125
DrBenCarson wrote: post #108

As a shareholder--good. As a lazy Twitter reader--bad.

Why do you think this is good for the stock price?

Everyone is logged into an account + Tweets (and share buttons) embedded all around the web -> way more data for advertising.

That's the underlying fact that make Facebook and Google (and to a lesser degree, Pinterest) so valuable for advertising. Facebook and Google have organic signups (FB for FB, Google for Gmail, Youtube, etc.), but Pinterest does what Twitter's thinking of doing here--it locks you out of content until you have an account. Pinterest also has "share" buttons (and the accompanying JS, cookies, etc.)

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