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Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by gunapologist99 »

sbagel wrote: post #197
wildpeaks wrote: post #64

On top of it, it's not just a matter of creating an account because they get blocked within two minutes until you also give them your phone number, despite the registration pretends it's not required (because once you signed up, it's easier to trick people into giving up yet more information than asking for it upfront).

unless they've changed their policy on this you can email support and say you don't have a phone number and they'll re-active your account, has worked for me in the past.

couldn't you just call them instead?

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by opan »

habibur wrote: post #293
eurasiantiger wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remind me again, why did we leave IRC?

We need to revive the ad free, commercial interest free Internet of the 90s. It will be small in size, but so was the internet back then. Someone should come up with a pub-sub distribute micro blogging service like how emails work.

There's gemini. Not the web, but maybe has the vibe you're looking for.

https://gemini.circumlunar.space/

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by the_pwner224 »

wildpeaks wrote: post #64

On top of it, it's not just a matter of creating an account because they get blocked within two minutes until you also give them your phone number, despite the registration pretends it's not required (because once you signed up, it's easier to trick people into giving up yet more information than asking for it upfront).

Unrelated, but does anyone know if Facebook does this? They seem to allow signing up with just an email address, but I haven't tried going through with it and seeing if they'll eventually require a phone number.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by novok »

Spivak wrote: post #95
_dujt wrote: post #80

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Of course, in order to help out the unfortunate website operators, people should willingly give up pii that the same companies have shown they don’t give a damn about protecting. /s

I mean what do you want them to actually do instead? Like seriously I’ve implemented at a company I worked for and it’s the least invasive thing to actually rate limit people. Alternatives included: - pay a small fee but that requires a credit card - send us government documents which is worse - mine crypto for a while but it doesn’t stop people who are actually motivated - send a selfie and then do some face matchin…

Twitter is stopping viewing, which isn't a fraud / abuse issue at low rates.

In the case of posting, rate limiting / scoring w/o a phone number without explicitly banning until you build more reputation works pretty well from what I can see, and most legit twitter users, especially new ones, don't post a lot and mostly read anyway.

And in twitter's case, I think paying a small amount of crypto would actually be something the CEO is interested in this case for the private types who won't / can't get a phone number. Some of twitter best accounts are anonymous and the CEO is into crypto. Add a monero payment option for those small amounts who aren't fraudulent and are private people and you will probably get rid of a lot of complaints.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by lancesells »

habibur wrote: post #293
eurasiantiger wrote: post #218

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Remind me again, why did we leave IRC?

We need to revive the ad free, commercial interest free Internet of the 90s. It will be small in size, but so was the internet back then. Someone should come up with a pub-sub distribute micro blogging service like how emails work.

I would love that but think adding in any kind of automated service will keep it from being the back-then internet.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by turminal »

danellis wrote: post #330
turminal wrote: post #247

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is immune, precisely because it's a protocol. Freenode is dead but switching to another network is literally as simple as pointing the client to a different domain name.

So the same as the HTTP protocol (i.e. switching from a website like Twitter to another, similar, website).

Comparing protocols like that is comparing apples to oranges, but I think I see your point.

When people say 'I miss IRC', they don't necessarily mean the technicalities of the protocol though.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by macintux »

riffic wrote: post #35

I posted this yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28281472 this is an issue (and I fail to see this mentioned here today) in that public sector agencies use Twitter to disseminate emergency information. With a login wall, this information is not getting out to the people who need it the most. I mod /r/Twitter and saw about a week ago a number of threads complaining about a new login-wall. This shit is 100…

I’ve complained to government agencies about using Facebook and not making their posts public. Maddening.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by MiddleEndian »

fighterpilot wrote: post #57
system2 wrote: post #20

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The day they turn off old.reddit.com reddit is dead to me. I've been on reddit 10 years and it was hard to understand why they chose this new disastrous design.

What is it with modern UI and the tendency to be slow, to have a ridiculous amount of whitespace, and to have a copious number of round button-icons that are not intuitive? It's fucking insulting.

Several years ago, I went to a tech roundtable hosted by a well-known company, and this topic came up.

Half the devs in the discussion sincerely didn't believe the new sluggish UI trend found on various social media and news sites was slow at all, because their metrics (presumably which measure some sort of server compute time) said they were not slower. It's some sort of religious fervor.

"Who are you going to believe? Me(trics) or your own lying eyes!?"

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by xvector »

hn_99 wrote: post #224
arsome wrote: post #176

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I prefer to just steal keys by reverse engineering mobile apps. So easy to get keys for just about anything and charge someone else for it that way.

Interesting. As someone who hasn't done any mobile dev at all, is there a way to prevent something like this from happening? Can't you somehow encrypt such secrets in the app?

I believe solutions like SafetyNet on Android might help here. AFAIK no one has successfully reversed SafetyNet enough to spoof it.
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