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Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by syshum »

riffic wrote: post #35

I posted this yesterday: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28281472 this is an issue (and I fail to see this mentioned here today) in that public sector agencies use Twitter to disseminate emergency information. With a login wall, this information is not getting out to the people who need it the most. I mod /r/Twitter and saw about a week ago a number of threads complaining about a new login-wall. This shit is 100…

Beyond the Login wall, Public Sector Agencies should not be using Twitter as a Primary communication method, it would be Ok to have the messages Copied their from Official Sources, but there should be Official Sources to obtain the same info, at the same time, update in the same frequency.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by selfhoster11 »

swiley wrote: post #114
f0e4c2f7 wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I almost hesitate to share these because I too found that Reddit's dark patterns were a large part of what helped me break that habit. I recently discovered teddit.net which is a frontend for reddit with all dark patterns removed. There is also an alternative front end for twitter called nitter.net that you can use the same way to avoid the app / login.

This is the same reason I don’t tell people how I get around HN’s “noprocrast.”

Just log out, I guess? I don't comment very frequently, the links are what keeps me coming back.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by habibur »

eurasiantiger wrote: post #218
sneak wrote: post #196

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's worse: Twitter staff sold private user PII to the Saudi government (the one that assassinates journalists): https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/alexkantrowitz/how-saud...

Remind me again, why did we leave IRC?

We need to revive the ad free, commercial interest free Internet of the 90s. It will be small in size, but so was the internet back then.

Someone should come up with a pub-sub distribute micro blogging service like how emails work.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by nullc »

This is a great opportunity to stop reading twitter.

Many people find it detrimental to their mental health, many people believe that the communications norms and technically mandated interaction styles of the platform are toxic to the public discourse. But if those reasons didn't quite get you over the line, it's now actively even more annoying.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by myhf »

Kye wrote: post #116
wildpeaks wrote: post #64

On top of it, it's not just a matter of creating an account because they get blocked within two minutes until you also give them your phone number, despite the registration pretends it's not required (because once you signed up, it's easier to trick people into giving up yet more information than asking for it upfront).

You can remove the number after you've used the account for a while and not get locked, but they shouldn't require it in the first place.

And yet that account will still get suggestions to follow people who have that phone number in their address book. Thinking face emoji

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by epistasis »

heywherelogingo wrote: post #277
bityard wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand the question. IRC is a real-time chat protocol and twitter is a proprietary micro-blogging website. I don't see how the two are related, other than they are both something to do with the Internet.

You do understand the question, you've just decided to respond in a silly way.

If my only current understanding of a question is "that's a silly question," then I'm also going to assume first that it's my failure to understand rather than assuming something worse about someone else.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by lowkey_ »

heywherelogingo wrote: post #277
bityard wrote: post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand the question. IRC is a real-time chat protocol and twitter is a proprietary micro-blogging website. I don't see how the two are related, other than they are both something to do with the Internet.

You do understand the question, you've just decided to respond in a silly way.

The above commenter is correct, the original question is silly, however much flak they may get as people here love IRC.

Do you genuinely believe (1) IRC is anywhere near as usable as Twitter for the general population, or that (2) a real-time chat is an equivalent offering to Twitter?

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by reggieband »

In the early days of the Internet I recall warnings that once these companies successfully grabbed all of the users then they would turn from benevolent to even worse than the existing media companies.

I was watching YouTube last night and realized I was getting a ton of ads. They do this new thing on their TV apps where they show the first 10-20 seconds of the video and then put in an ad. Plus a midroll that awkwardly injects itself on a scene change somewhere at 5-10 minutes. I was watching a live music performance and mid song the camera angle changed and YouTube algo decides it is a good place for an ad. I used to get one 10-15 sec ad but lately it is more like 3 ads with the third one being un-skippable.

I opened Facebook this morning and the first 10 or so cards on my feed were all ads and complete garbage "comedy" videos. I then saw 1 or 2 posts from friends followed by terrible recipe gifs, more "comedy" videos, TED talks, ads for marketplace and pointless "news". I would guess around 10% of the posts were from my actual social network.

Twitter embeds on news articles are nearly the worst. If they have an image, after you have clicked through to Twitters site, you can't even see attached image without logging in. Actually, every single button the Tweet landing page seems to go to a login screen.

I even have a reddit account and now the front-page isn't even customized. Probably 30% of the cards are from subreddits I have never interacted with with "suggested because you are subscribed to XXX".

What's amazing is we are justifying this with "well capitalism, duh". Like these companies didn't vacuum up the free Internet until any non-ad supported content was snuffed out. Now that we have no where else to go for this stuff they can start to turn the screws.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by meowtimemania »

system2 wrote: post #20
Theizestooke wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm using old.reddit.com, and it's ok. Shame if they would turn that off though.

The day they turn off old.reddit.com reddit is dead to me. I've been on reddit 10 years and it was hard to understand why they chose this new disastrous design.

I may be alone, but I prefer the new design. On the old reddit I didn't like how I had to click into a post to view its contents. On the new design most of the post contents are right there on the list page.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by tyingq »

rozab wrote: post #219
bastard_op wrote: post #110

So can people please quit posting twitter feeds finally? Some of us still have never used or signed up with twitter, or feel the need to, and really don't want to. Bad enough they removed non-javascript access, since they are permablocked through noscript here, I simply close postings on HN that link there and curse them for bothering. Asking for a login atop that is just a 4x non-starter for "news" links. Yes, some…

I think some people have misunderstood this change. It's been active for me for about a week, I suspect most others without accounts just haven't noticed. Clicking on a linked tweet still works, it's only when you then click on another from within the site that it asks you for a login. It's the same approach Quora takes iirc.

Except that you often have to click something in Twitter to see the "thread", or a decent resolution of a tweeted picture, etc.
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