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Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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Re: Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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“ What does a "black" person from Sierra Leone have in common with a "black" person from the deserts in the northeast of Africa?” They face the same discrimination in America and in that they find companionship

And in the case of barbers - they have the same type of hair.. Why is this confusing for HNers?

I don't think anybody is confused about that. It's obvious. And nobody was discussing the barbers on this sub-thread.

Re: Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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If HN can look past the usual tropes, there's something interesting here. Lewis is trying to solve a problem a lot of other people are trying to solve: how can you have a normal community in US culture? Let me list a few solutions and you will see why his is better than average. 1. Religion. Pros: Going to church has tied communities together for millennia, and if you could just find some better pastors, it could con…

This is such a poorly crafted argument that it's hard to imagine it's not in bad faith. You listed religion twice! The only way this is representative of any kind of "normal" culture is if you have defined it that way. Let's think about a couple more ways that you could go about obtaining a community in the US. leisure: clubs, cafes, live music events, bars, gyms. proximity: neighborhood, induced parent communities f…

These would be comparable examples if religion included nothing but the physical building of a church/mosque/synagogue.

Re: Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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post #61

If HN can look past the usual tropes, there's something interesting here. Lewis is trying to solve a problem a lot of other people are trying to solve: how can you have a normal community in US culture? Let me list a few solutions and you will see why his is better than average. 1. Religion. Pros: Going to church has tied communities together for millennia, and if you could just find some better pastors, it could con…

This is such a poorly crafted argument that it's hard to imagine it's not in bad faith. You listed religion twice! The only way this is representative of any kind of "normal" culture is if you have defined it that way. Let's think about a couple more ways that you could go about obtaining a community in the US. leisure: clubs, cafes, live music events, bars, gyms. proximity: neighborhood, induced parent communities f…

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Re: Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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Why do people need to meld their ego with some nebulous "classification"? Like yo I'm black. Yo I'm white. Yo I'm asian. In reality, all humans are a continuous spectrum based off of groups of people that evolved in certain conditions over thousands of years. What does a "white" person from Ireland have in common with a "white" person from the Caucuses? What does a "black" person from Sierra Leone have in common with…

A shared set of experiences. I'm Latino, and when I visit the United States I get along well with other Latino folk because we share a set of experiences we can relate to. We probably grew up in different places but there's a background we have in common, like our language. It's called culture.

You’re proving his or her point.

Latinos can be white, black, native, or anything else. You share a culture with them regardless of skin color.

People in the US forget that most Latinos are white. There are several South American countries that are more white than the US.

I have a friend with a European name that appears European but emigrated with his parents from Argentina at a young age. He told me he doesn't identify as Latino in the US despite being Latino because he suspects that he's being judged as an imposter.

Re: Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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If HN can look past the usual tropes, there's something interesting here. Lewis is trying to solve a problem a lot of other people are trying to solve: how can you have a normal community in US culture? Let me list a few solutions and you will see why his is better than average. 1. Religion. Pros: Going to church has tied communities together for millennia, and if you could just find some better pastors, it could con…

> Cons: You can't go if you don't have the money for a haircut.

This is something that people are unaware of (sort of on purpose), but barbershops in black communities become ad-hoc community centers, where black men can just go and be among other black men. Gatherings of black men were (and are) seen as suspicious or "gang-related", but if there's a large gathering of black men at a barbershop, they're all just there to get a haircut, and everyone needs a haircut.

It's not expected of people to get a haircut.

Re: Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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post #51

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Honestly what? How is what you're saying not a racist dogwhistle? It's political propaganda why? Because they're Black?

there is no evidence for systemic racism, is a purely political invention. Dems are fishing for minority votes through their favorite propaganda channels, but I don't think this will help them

This comment is so far from my reality that I feel we must have different definitions of systemic racism. So I’m curious, what does systemic racism mean to you? Or to flip your statement around, what would systemic racism look like to you if it were to exist?

Re: Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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Why the South China Morning Post?

SCMP was acquired by Alibaba and has become more supportive of Chinese Communist Party: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/south-china-morning-post/ . I can't vouch for this analysis. I think they are not what they used to be.

That's unfortunate, I didn't know that. But they used to be fairly unbiased and critical of the Chinese government.

Re: Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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Why do people need to meld their ego with some nebulous "classification"? Like yo I'm black. Yo I'm white. Yo I'm asian. In reality, all humans are a continuous spectrum based off of groups of people that evolved in certain conditions over thousands of years. What does a "white" person from Ireland have in common with a "white" person from the Caucuses? What does a "black" person from Sierra Leone have in common with…

Black hair isn't white hair and black shared experiences in America are not white shared experiences in America. Sometimes you need to talk and vent without a bunch of resistance from outsiders to that experience.

Re: Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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post #66

If HN can look past the usual tropes, there's something interesting here. Lewis is trying to solve a problem a lot of other people are trying to solve: how can you have a normal community in US culture? Let me list a few solutions and you will see why his is better than average. 1. Religion. Pros: Going to church has tied communities together for millennia, and if you could just find some better pastors, it could con…

There have to be more options than that. A country club? A service org like Rotary / Lion's Club? I'm not sure what's out there, but there must options other than Jihad, Kristallnacht, or barber shop.

Country clubs are specifically made as exclusionary spaces for wealthy, almost always white, people.

Re: Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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“ What does a "black" person from Sierra Leone have in common with a "black" person from the deserts in the northeast of Africa?” They face the same discrimination in America and in that they find companionship

So a person from Sierra Leone who's never stepped foot in the United States would thus never have experienced this "discrimination" and thus are not part of the "black" group? Your argument makes no sense.

You realize you started this with a weird tangent, right, and that the article concerns African-Americans?
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