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Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by dijit »

throw6746 wrote: post #193
Spivak wrote: post #154

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I want to go further here. - Combat spam. - Be large. - Allow (pseudo-)anonymous accounts. A social network can only pick two.

> A social network can only pick two. Reddit has all three (no need for email even), they might not be perfect but I can't remember any time I saw "viagra links" or other obvious spam. They have problems with accounts obviously, but you can't frame it as a spam problem.

I see a lot of spam on Reddit.

That does nothing to speak of “auto moderator”, fragmented rules/guidelines and ilk and the sheer effort involved by volunteers.

Even then: the spam gets through. But I agree that PII is not solving this.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by WaltPurvis »

RicoElectrico wrote: post #160

Can somebody chime in why in the world I get so often "Something went wrong" errors when viewing hotlinked tweets? I need to refresh like 5-10 times.

Refreshing never worked for me, although I admit I probably never tried refreshing ten times.

What does work for me is manually prepending www. to twitter.com in the url.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by peakaboo »

wildpeaks wrote: post #64

On top of it, it's not just a matter of creating an account because they get blocked within two minutes until you also give them your phone number, despite the registration pretends it's not required (because once you signed up, it's easier to trick people into giving up yet more information than asking for it upfront).

At some point there will only be people who don't care at all about their privacy that use twitter, Facebook, Instagram... All these American services in "social" media.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by petee »

How does this affect Twitter users that are publishing official tweets, like police departments announcing emergency situations? Am I going to miss a school shooting because I don't have a Twitter account? Some of these accounts have mandated public visibility

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by lambdaba »

Theizestooke wrote: post #11
AlwaysRock wrote: post #4

When Reddit started doing this it effectively broke my redditing habit. I know these things are annoying but for anyone who is trying to use social media less... Twitter, Reddit, and Instagram are almost unusable without their apps. They are basically useless if you dont sign in on the browser on your phone. It's great if you want to get off them.

I'm using old.reddit.com, and it's ok. Shame if they would turn that off though.

There's a Chrome extension for redirecting to old.reddit.com: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/old-reddit-redirec...

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by Dopameaner »

Within HN, there are alot of people who might not be targeted audience for twitter.

I consider this addition to be a step back. As a rabid twitter fan, They blocked my account because i refused to add my number. Then, they blocked the content to view tweets, this reduced my interaction even further.

I question how some of these features get decided. Atleast, WSJ, gives couple of articles before throwing in a paywall.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by marcosdumay »

monkeybutton wrote: post #142

I don't have a twitter account because I have nothing I want to say or post in the twitter-verse. I do occasionally read threads on twitter when they're the primary source of something significant. E.g. when they are linked to from a news article or HN. I ran into their block a few days ago and my gut reaction wasn't to sign up and keep reading, it was to leave. I doubt I'll be back.

I will probably never read another tweet again, and I'm a little bit glad about it too. Maybe next reddit can close the old interface too.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by Someone »

est31 wrote: post #106
Spivak wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I mean what do you want them to actually do instead? Like seriously I’ve implemented at a company I worked for and it’s the least invasive thing to actually rate limit people. Alternatives included: - pay a small fee but that requires a credit card - send us government documents which is worse - mine crypto for a while but it doesn’t stop people who are actually motivated - send a selfie and then do some face matchin…

Personally I'm a fan of the fee idea. You can quickly outstrip the yearly revenue per user with even a small fee, and the fee payment could e.g. happen via PayPal which doesn't require credit cards, to give one example. The issue with fees though is that you might need a billable address for tax purposes which renders this entire exercise pointless.

I don’t understand that in this context.

Let’s say you pay a fee for being able to view tweets without logging in. How will they know it’s you who’s trying to view a tweet if you don’t effectively log in?

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by jrmg »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #2

There’s a strange irony in Redditors complaining about this when Reddit has been rolling out the same sporadic login requirements (on mobile web) to view certain Reddit content. I suppose these angry Reddit commenters bashing Twitter aren’t seeing it because they’re logged in to Reddit. Just as with Reddit, there are workarounds to bypass this login requirement if you really want to. The users in that thread have som…

I’m not sure it’s as much ‘the same’ as it appears at first glance.

Increasingly, Twitter is a place where people post original _content_ - things they expect others to be able to see and read and share, potentially on other platforms. These range from the original pithy remarks to long, article-like streams. It seems problematic to me to require a login to view these, and I think it could have an effect on usage for these kinds of things.

There’s not so much of that in Reddit. It’s more a discussion forum, where reading seems like the secondary thing to do to me. Peoples identity also isn’t as ‘obvious’ on Reddit.

Of course, it’s not concrete - you do see long shareable ‘articles’ in Reddit comments sometimes, but I do find myself more taken aback by a Twitter login requirement than a Reddit one.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Post by ZWoz »

wildpeaks wrote: post #64

On top of it, it's not just a matter of creating an account because they get blocked within two minutes until you also give them your phone number, despite the registration pretends it's not required (because once you signed up, it's easier to trick people into giving up yet more information than asking for it upfront).

I have noticed that most those services (twitter, Skype and so on) block login without giving phone number...until few months later they automatically unblock. I simply check out in every week, are they removed block or not. Once I was stupid and gave phone number one of those kind services, that was bad idea. Account went into some weird state after giving code received from SMS. So my personal experience: wait, never give phone number.
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