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Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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Re: Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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Post by andyxor »

poopypoopington wrote: post #48
andyxor wrote: post #36

no matter how cute the barber story is, you can't ignore the fact this is political propaganda from a primary propaganda source. it's what pg calls "submarine PR", in this case for Dems "systemic racism" agenda, the more people believe this bs the more votes they get.

Honestly what? How is what you're saying not a racist dogwhistle? It's political propaganda why? Because they're Black?

there is no evidence for systemic racism, is a purely political invention.

Dems are fishing for minority votes through their favorite propaganda channels, but I don't think this will help them

Re: Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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Post by isoskeles »

sergiomattei wrote: post #39
randomopining wrote: post #16

Why do people need to meld their ego with some nebulous "classification"? Like yo I'm black. Yo I'm white. Yo I'm asian. In reality, all humans are a continuous spectrum based off of groups of people that evolved in certain conditions over thousands of years. What does a "white" person from Ireland have in common with a "white" person from the Caucuses? What does a "black" person from Sierra Leone have in common with…

A shared set of experiences. I'm Latino, and when I visit the United States I get along well with other Latino folk because we share a set of experiences we can relate to. We probably grew up in different places but there's a background we have in common, like our language. It's called culture.

Funny, I don’t get along with many other Latinos despite being one. I think it’s this attitude that I’m supposed to speak the language and act a certain way as part of the “culture.”

Re: Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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Post by wisethrowaway »

MisterBastahrd wrote: post #40
chalst wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I find the article and some of the comments interesting, I don't think it's a good fit for HN. Articles should provoke curious conversation; this one, judging from the number of dead posts, is provoking too much tribalism.

It's good at exposing racists, that's for sure.

And gulag guards too.

Re: Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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Post by kamfc »

bsedlm wrote: post #15

They might not be therapists, but they are filling a similar role as therapy. Sometimes people just need to vent towards an 'objective' (external) listener who will provide feedback of some sort.

Counselors are more like it. Or a stranger at the bar you can vent to. Therapists do more from my personal experience.

Re: Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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Post by x86_64Ubuntu »

randomopining wrote: post #16

Why do people need to meld their ego with some nebulous "classification"? Like yo I'm black. Yo I'm white. Yo I'm asian. In reality, all humans are a continuous spectrum based off of groups of people that evolved in certain conditions over thousands of years. What does a "white" person from Ireland have in common with a "white" person from the Caucuses? What does a "black" person from Sierra Leone have in common with…

It's understood from the context that the ethnic group of concern in the article are African-Americans.

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Post by randomopining »

chickenpotpie wrote: post #25
randomopining wrote: post #16

Why do people need to meld their ego with some nebulous "classification"? Like yo I'm black. Yo I'm white. Yo I'm asian. In reality, all humans are a continuous spectrum based off of groups of people that evolved in certain conditions over thousands of years. What does a "white" person from Ireland have in common with a "white" person from the Caucuses? What does a "black" person from Sierra Leone have in common with…

“ What does a "black" person from Sierra Leone have in common with a "black" person from the deserts in the northeast of Africa?” They face the same discrimination in America and in that they find companionship

So a person from Sierra Leone who's never stepped foot in the United States would thus never have experienced this "discrimination" and thus are not part of the "black" group?

Your argument makes no sense.

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Post by micromacrofoot »

randomopining wrote: post #41
antihero wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because membership of a group, especially for marginalised and oppressed peoples, is a way to have shared strength and be able to relate to others' experiences and protect each other. Which is an incredibly powerful and necessary until the world is significantly fairer. Also in the case of barbers, it is plainly obvious: Experience working with hair of a certain type.

What I'm saying is that the people in this "group" may have almost nothing in common at all, except for having a darker shade of skin color. Aka get rid of the simple descriptors of "white" "black" etc since they mean very little or nothing at all.

these descriptions mean a lot when they determine how you're treated by society

Re: Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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Post by [deleted] »

poopypoopington wrote: post #48
andyxor wrote: post #36

no matter how cute the barber story is, you can't ignore the fact this is political propaganda from a primary propaganda source. it's what pg calls "submarine PR", in this case for Dems "systemic racism" agenda, the more people believe this bs the more votes they get.

Honestly what? How is what you're saying not a racist dogwhistle? It's political propaganda why? Because they're Black?

[deleted]

Re: Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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Post by retrac »

scarmig wrote: post #32
chickenpotpie wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

“ What does a "black" person from Sierra Leone have in common with a "black" person from the deserts in the northeast of Africa?” They face the same discrimination in America and in that they find companionship

Contemporary African immigrants significantly outperform those descended from slaves. Moreover, they have higher educational attainment, household incomes, and professional success than American white populations. Nigerian immigrants even outperform Chinese and Indian immigrants.

White British immigrants to Canada today, outperform white Canadians of British descent whose ancestors freely moved there in the 19th century, as do their children.

I suspect for the same reason that causes what you've noted. People who emigrate as skilled immigrants internationally are not average people. In both cases we're seeing the cream of the crop (intentionally selected for by the immigration system), educated and driven, often with some wealth established already. And then comparing them to a large population of locals who have varied circumstances determined by local history, not the current immigration criteria.

Re: Black barbers have become mental health advocates for African American men

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Post by jjtheblunt »

No mention of Coming to America, where this happens?

That resonated with white kids in suburban america too (i'm one) who had the same experience, with friends' grandfathers the longtime town barbers. My grandfathers had both died when i was tiny, so it was the only grandfather situation i had recurringly, and it wasn't just white or just black, btw.

it's just a healthy thing, so good seeing it still goes on!

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