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Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Do they whitelist accounts of public officials? For instance, having the POTUS account behind an auth wall seems like a horrible practice.

It bothered from the other angle when POTUS started pushing Twitter as an important channel to keep up on what was going on because it's hardly ideal for that. My local government has similarly been making Nextdoor a de facto requirement if you want to know what's happening or want to give feedback (especially in an era of frequent town office closures). I tend to favor minimal government but I think the USPS was an…

I think of the issue a different way. The problem isn't having an official communications channel, but rather, being able to communicate somewhere where the average person will actually be exposed to it. POTUS puts out memos and briefings all the time on the official whitehouse.gov site, but who actually reads those? I see the fundamental problem as attention based, rather than infrastructure based.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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So maybe don’t require an account to view tweets, or don’t let me tweet until I provide phone number but still let me view… lots of options

But then they don't get data on which tweets you viewed.

They can't set a cookie? Associate my phone with my desktop by IP address correlation on home ISPs? C'mon, they oughta be more capable than that.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Exactly. This is good since this corporations are basically killing themselves since people, slowly but steady, are realizing they can get info elsewhere on the internet (and people start sharing outside them). So yeah, they are basically forcing users to migrate to more open services.

Eh maybe. The problem is that IMO there aren’t any obvious alternatives to Reddit. I remember when Digg committed suicide with a pretty bad redesign and most disgruntled users moved to Reddit. I’ve been pretty annoyed with the changes Reddit has implemented in the past couple of years, but I haven’t found another place to go (that’s not necessarily a bad thing). HN is the closest alternative but the scope of topics w…

IMO they are just creating an opening in the market by continuously shooting themselves in the foot like that. I don't really understand it. Requiring a login to view content is the reason why I never got into Tumblr or Pinterest... I'm not going to bother signing up for your site if you don't first show me it has content that is worth my time, these people have it the wrong way around.

As a Reddit alternative, Ruqqus has the UI and responsiveness down pretty good. However, it branded itself as anti-reddit, and attracted a lot of right-wing people as a result. However, their platform is open source, so IMO, it's only a matter of time before someone steps up to the task.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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Im just curious, what are the motivations for a company to make this move? It seems like a death sentence to me but I cant think of any examples off-hand.

To draw back in those seeking to cut down their social media usage, in part

I don't see how that makes sense. If you're looking to reduce your social media usage, this change will make that easier..

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

#165

Managements always work toward managing towards what they can measure. I’m sure that daily signups are a metric that they track, hence they’ll prioritize signups even at the cost of user frustration and love, something that’s less tangible. This is the kind of thing that kept me off Quora forever. It’s a great resource but I don’t feel like logging in 100% of the time. So now I just ignore all of their links.

Quora ended for me when spun/copy+pasted Google results started to replace answers. For example: I asked for the science behind the EPA's recommendations on UV exposure, and the answers were all word-for-word copies of the first result in Google, which had no detail on the science behind it. Just "avoid going out before x," "wear x SPF sunscreen," but nothing about the basis for the recommendations.

That was years ago. Recently, I went looking for how to un-retweet something from an account that has since blocked me, and every single answer on every instance of someone asking that on Quora is more or less a copy of Twitter's documentation for an ordinary un-retweet. Useless search result pollution.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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So can people please quit posting twitter feeds finally? Some of us still have never used or signed up with twitter, or feel the need to, and really don't want to. Bad enough they removed non-javascript access, since they are permablocked through noscript here, I simply close postings on HN that link there and curse them for bothering. Asking for a login atop that is just a 4x non-starter for "news" links. Yes, some…

I fully share your sentiment. Tip, though: threadreaderapp.com will proxy them for you if you do really want to see them for some reason. I've also heard nitter.net mentioned, but haven't tried it yet.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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It's not just the design, it's the fact that it's buggy and frequently unresponsive. If it was well done I might be able to forgive them, but my phone tells me I have messages I can't see on the desktop even after I refresh the page.

Reddit has had 5 second page loads for over a decade. Extremely embarrassing of them to be honest. I can understand them not fixing their search because that increases engagement, but you always want your site to be fast. I guess they don't because they know they have no competitors.

> "I can understand them not fixing their search because that increases engagement..."

Do you have any citations for this?

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

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I'm using old.reddit.com, and it's ok. Shame if they would turn that off though.

The day they turn off old.reddit.com reddit is dead to me. I've been on reddit 10 years and it was hard to understand why they chose this new disastrous design.

They wanted to give Digg some company.

Re: Twitter starts to require login to view tweets

#170

Honestly, this seems like a plus for humanity. I don't think Twitter has really improved the world in any significant way, and maybe made it worse. Anything that prevents the twitter universe from seeping into mine is a good change.

Realistically, though, is this going to:

- decrease Twitter usage, or

- increase Twitter signups

They apparently have calculated that they have enough mass that people will be dragged towards the latter.

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