Good twitter is probably the worst social media out of the lot and the only reason people use it is because famous influencers use it to get publicity. If they go walled garden that kills twitter usp vs facebook.
Twitter starts to require login to view tweets
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I mean what do you want them to actually do instead? Like seriously I’ve implemented at a company I worked for and it’s the least invasive thing to actually rate limit people. Alternatives included: - pay a small fee but that requires a credit card - send us government documents which is worse - mine crypto for a while but it doesn’t stop people who are actually motivated - send a selfie and then do some face matchin…
>I mean what do you want them to actually do instead? Nothing. Hire more moderators maybe. it also looks dishonest to frame it this way when twitter asks these pii for "spam protection" and yet still can't ban obvious Fiverr-like spam accounts > Like what other things can we ask for that actually work and aren’t more invasive? Nothing, somehow plenty of websites do fine without even asking for email, including this o…
They've already rejected doing nothing, as it doesn't work.
I want Tesla to give me a free car too, but it ain't happening. At some point a company makes decisions you aren't gonna agree with and your only recourse is to not use them. If that means you can't read Twitter, then that's the price you pay. You aren't "owed" a free Twitter account solely on your own personal terms.
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One option might be to allow people to view tweets if they have accounts from reputable federated identity providers, then you have an identity of an individual person without having to do the validation yourself. You can then rate-limit based on that individual ID. Another option might be to rate-limit by things which don't require accounts, which won't strictly rate-limit individuals, but it's unlikely that's the t…
One option would be to just allow people to view public tweets without requiring sign in.
It doesn't achieve the stated goal of rate-limiting individual people, which sounds like an instrumental goal for an actual (unstated) business objective.
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
I mean what do you want them to actually do instead? Like seriously I’ve implemented at a company I worked for and it’s the least invasive thing to actually rate limit people. Alternatives included: - pay a small fee but that requires a credit card - send us government documents which is worse - mine crypto for a while but it doesn’t stop people who are actually motivated - send a selfie and then do some face matchin…
Sure, instead of a phone number you can: * Give us your Credit Card information * Give us a picture of your real life self Neither of these are solutions to the privacy and compromise potential problem that is the 'phone number or else' requirement. Its objectively worse, so that you go "oh, guess you can have my phone number instead".
I want to go further here.
- Combat spam.
- Be large.
- Allow (pseudo-)anonymous accounts.
A social network can only pick two.
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#155So can people please quit posting twitter feeds finally? Some of us still have never used or signed up with twitter, or feel the need to, and really don't want to. Bad enough they removed non-javascript access, since they are permablocked through noscript here, I simply close postings on HN that link there and curse them for bothering. Asking for a login atop that is just a 4x non-starter for "news" links. Yes, some…
Unfortunately, given the nature of network effects, I suspect those who use Twitter will continue to use it, news media will continue to treat it as a primary source for comments from people, and those of us who wish to refrain from using it just... Won't have access to that channel of data. I don't see a scenario where a mass-walkout happens... Certainly not from this.
It'll be like the good old days of only finding out what's happening in the next town over because you read the paper's account of it, only now the next town over is just a site we could create an account on but refuse to.
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#156I'm fine with this, I'll just never look at Twitter again.
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#157Doesn’t Twitter report that they have north of 500 million dormant users (people who use Twitter without an account)?
Given how much shit they get from Wall Street due to their super weak user growth, I’m suprised they didn’t do this long ago.
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Of course, in order to help out the unfortunate website operators, people should willingly give up pii that the same companies have shown they don’t give a damn about protecting. /s
"For your protection." The most abused and dishonest phrase of the 21st century.
uh, 'to protect the children' would like to have a word.
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It’s more buggy, less responsive, has less features and consumes more resources. Literally its only pro is that it looks pretty.
It looks "pretty" in the crappy modern way though where there's loads of whitespace and everything is hidden in a menu or tab somewhere. Give me "ugly" plain-ish text that is information dense.
The post-view in compact mode is actually denser than before (thought it has some ugly spacing issues at the top). It’s amazing. Sadly, there seems to be no compact mode for comments, so those look horrible.
And well, considering how slow it is to use, I wouldn’t even use new Reddit then. New Reddit is really only for people who have a high tolerance to slow sites.
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#160Can somebody chime in why in the world I get so often "Something went wrong" errors when viewing hotlinked tweets? I need to refresh like 5-10 times.