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I am an HFT Programmer

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Re: I am an HFT Programmer

#11

they get paid well, but they're also doing work of dubious value. i left trading because i wanted to do something that i knew would make a positive impact on the world.

>they get paid well, but they're also doing work of dubious value.

Unless they're getting paid at a rate determined by regulations, by definition the value of their work is what their employer is willing to pay.

Re: I am an HFT Programmer

#13

they get paid well, but they're also doing work of dubious value. i left trading because i wanted to do something that i knew would make a positive impact on the world.

>they get paid well, but they're also doing work of dubious value. Unless they're getting paid at a rate determined by regulations, by definition the value of their work is what their employer is willing to pay.

I believe the "value" being referred to here is social rather than financial.

Re: I am an HFT Programmer

#14
How to get a really good salary:

1. Be really smart

2. Be willing to do something that's deadly boring to most smart people

Me? I'm a scientist. I'm not gonna write your goddamn binary tree pricing algorithm or remove your varicose veins or argue about some dull point of legal text in court. But I'm sure I'd be a lot richer if I did.

(In other news, man, those grapes sure look sour, I'm glad I can't reach 'em.)

Re: I am an HFT Programmer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was pretty shocked with I saw that guy said he hoped to make $500k for the year. Sounds like the profits aren't making their way down to the developers.

The reason why profits don't flow down is because the buck doesn't stop with them. There are plenty of developers making much more, but in those cases they take the fall if a trading strategy loses money. Those developers that do take the risks make more if the firm makes more money, but also lose their jobs if they make a really bad trade. Same is true in other software development outfits as well. Lower-level progr…

Why would developers be making trading strategy?

Re: I am an HFT Programmer

#16

I have a friend who works in trading. He's very sharp and very smart and has friends who work for D.E. Shaw. I used to ask why he didn't go work for D.E. Shaw and he said that he would never survive the interview gauntlet there. And most importantly, he would not be smart enough. Now, I know how good at math my friend is (he used to win Games t-shirts - from the magazine and studies math at graduate level). And now w…

Sounds like your friend might suffer from impostor syndrome.

Re: I am an HFT Programmer

#17
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That hourly rate is pretty crappy for that level and amount of work. (<$100)

Compared to what the top traders make, 0.5Mil / year is pretty embarrassing.

IT is generally considered a cost centre in banking, in essence, and so not rewarded like real traders, or sales people.

Re: I am an HFT Programmer

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They are specialists. They specialize in optimizing the crap out of very specific algorithms. I would much rather take a pay cut than work all day on optimizing stuff. For the money that they pay the work sounds extreamly boring (imho)

Specialization is for insects -Heinlein

Re: I am an HFT Programmer

#19
So he does what any good programmer does, but he earns 5x as much. One reason they earn so much is that the companies they work for have corrupt ties to the Federal Reserve and the US government, and when the money supply is inflated, they get all the new money, and can thus pay their programmers (and all employees/partners/shareholders/owners) with the new money. Their salaries come at the expense of people who don't get the new money, like pensioners.

Re: I am an HFT Programmer

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How to get a really good salary: 1. Be really smart 2. Be willing to do something that's deadly boring to most smart people Me? I'm a scientist. I'm not gonna write your goddamn binary tree pricing algorithm or remove your varicose veins or argue about some dull point of legal text in court. But I'm sure I'd be a lot richer if I did. (In other news, man, those grapes sure look sour, I'm glad I can't reach 'em.)

3. Be willing to work for a corrupt industry.
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