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Re: On the link between great thinking and obsessive walking

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This is why I am looking for a simple AR headset: so I can look at code while walking through the woods in my area. Just a simple translucent IDE is all I need. I definitely feel that I am better at thinking when walking, but I also need to be looking at source code to get the details, otherwise I can only think about larger architecture. When is this coming?

I think this is quite the wrong way of looking at Walking. It is the relaxed, ruminative, mind-wandering state that the mind and body get into while Walking that is so essential for Creativity. By providing it with more attention grabbing stimulus you are actually distracting it.

Re: On the link between great thinking and obsessive walking

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Whenever I was learning for exams I would learn while randomly walking through environments. This helped me so much because I could connect the topics learned to the places I walked through, so afterwards I'd just have to walk that walk again to remember the topics in sequence.

Walking is generally a good and inspiring pastime and I am glad I live in a part of the planets where my environment is both walkable and safe.

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That was heartbreaking to read. I’m sorry. It really surprised me when I read Germany. Shame on those people and the politicians who allow police to harass you. Shame on them!

I was also very surprised when I read that it was in Germany. When it comes to police checks, it is important to know your rights: https://anwaltauskunft.de/magazin/gesellschaft/strafrecht-po... The police is not allowed to discriminate against you just because you look foreign. Always demand that they tell you why you were stopped and that they show their badge. When it comes to racists, I personally would reply wit…

Police doesn't care. It's also illegal to discriminate and you can technically call the police when people do it, but they either don't come or will question you instead. "What did you do that they would do this".

And don't let anyone fool you into thinking that this is an eastern Germany problem. I grew up in one of the largest cities in the West, don't come from africa and have been told to go back where I came from plenty of times(which is actually amusing considering my background), have been assaulted by security people, peppersprayed by elderly men, etc.

There are also some EU laws that actually make the random checks somewhat legal.

Don't forget that Germany is the place that happily called for solidarity with BLM movement by the same people that would call Chinese "ching chang chung" on national television. Sure they don't shoot you, but they will make sure you have as little upward mobility as possible.

A lot of Africans that I know, take the University education from Germany and then move the US or Canada when they get the chance. You will rarely see any people of colour in leadership positions in Germany, heck there are hardly even eastern Germans in leadership positions in publicly listed German companies.

As much as I dislike a lot of things about the US at least in the professional sense you are treated with respect if you're good at what you do.

EDIT: oh and if you want to see what Bavarian police thinks of immigrants maybe took a look at some of the drawings in the police calendar.

https://taz.de/picture/224461/948/gdp_kalender2.jpg

https://www.augsburger-allgemeine.de/img/incoming/crop190229...

Re: On the link between great thinking and obsessive walking

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I was recently reading a book called Why we Swim where the author traces how the ape got back into the water. I think she rightly points out that Swimming is the best place to think because there is no way to be distracted by your phone or anything else for that matter. While I am also in a landlocked city with little access to pools but it would be interesting to get the point of view of swimmers.

Although I never carry a phone to begin with, as a previous non-swimmer I have started swimming in open water this year ( obviously I learnt to swim as a child ). The 'just you and the elements' part is real, in the open water you can't just stop and get out, you have got to complete what you started. The 'completeness' of the exercise is different than biking or walking : every joint and muscle seems to be involved.…

> The end of summer is approaching and the water is getting colder, I am exploring the indoor pools in my vicinity.

I don't know where you are, but would wetsuit help to extend the time you can swim in the open waters? Obviously, I'm just assuming you're not doing that already... :)

Re: On the link between great thinking and obsessive walking

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Although I never carry a phone to begin with, as a previous non-swimmer I have started swimming in open water this year ( obviously I learnt to swim as a child ). The 'just you and the elements' part is real, in the open water you can't just stop and get out, you have got to complete what you started. The 'completeness' of the exercise is different than biking or walking : every joint and muscle seems to be involved.…

> The end of summer is approaching and the water is getting colder, I am exploring the indoor pools in my vicinity. I don't know where you are, but would wetsuit help to extend the time you can swim in the open waters? Obviously, I'm just assuming you're not doing that already... :)

It might. But the problem is not only the temp of the water.

If it is overcast, windy and not too warm, it takes a lot of mental strength to engage in the activity.

I am a bit disappointed by the entrace fee of the indoor pools : about € 5. These are municipal pools.

Re: On the link between great thinking and obsessive walking

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I was also very surprised when I read that it was in Germany. When it comes to police checks, it is important to know your rights: https://anwaltauskunft.de/magazin/gesellschaft/strafrecht-po... The police is not allowed to discriminate against you just because you look foreign. Always demand that they tell you why you were stopped and that they show their badge. When it comes to racists, I personally would reply wit…

Eastern Germany is very racist. I'm white and I repeatedly got "the looks" when I spoke Polish on a trip there. Not like Poland is better, but somehow people don't expect it in Germany.

I think it depends entirely on where you are in Germany, like everywhere you have more tolerant places and more intolerant places. Curiously the places with the least foreigners are the most xenophobic ones and vice versa.

Re: On the link between great thinking and obsessive walking

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I get up at 5-5:30AM, every day, and walk two miles. I put some effort into the walk. My usual speed is 16 minutes a mile. It used to be less than 15, but I’ve slowed a bit, as I’ve gotten older. Nothing spectacular, but it gets my heart rate up, and I usually break a bit of a sweat.

I wouldn’t call myself a “great thinker,” but I find it useful to do these daily walks.

The walk helps me to clear my mind, and organize the day’s tasks. I generally code every day, so I often use the time to work out a tactical plan for the day’s work. Sometimes, I work out a strategy for a longer term, but it’s usually just a daily plan. I often come up with big pivots, or solve pernicious bugs, during my walk. I work in a very dynamic fashion, with frequent direction changes, during a given project, and tend to be ambitious, in my goals, so I always have problems to solve.

I frequently fix big bugs, right after getting home from a walk. I’ll walk up to the desk, log in, fire up Xcode, and apply the fix. After that, I’ll hit the shower. A standing desk helps a lot, here. Sometimes, I’m at the computer for an hour, before I take my shower.

Yeah, I can be a bit obsessive…

I tried running, a few years ago, but I tended to injure myself, which would result in gaps of up to a month at a go; so walking, it is.

The last couple of days, I’ve had to stay in, because it’s been raining buckets in the morning. I also sometimes need to have breaks in the winter, because snow makes the route downright dangerous.

Otherwise, it’s two miles, at 5:15-6AM, every day. Takes just about a half hour. I don headphones, and play rather mindless techno music (it’s usually the only time during the day, when I listen to music. I don’t listen while working). I also wear what I call my “clown suit,” or bright, reflective clothing, as it tends to be dark, and people drive like crap, in the morning. I suspect a lot of texting and emailing, while driving. Stop signs and lane markers are really just “suggestions.”

I also think personal Discipline is critical to my work and lifestyle. I find that these walks help to reinforce that. I’ve been doing it for years, and have never really come to enjoy them. I feel that it’s good for me to do at least two things, every day, that I don’t want to do. I usually have that covered before 7.

Re: On the link between great thinking and obsessive walking

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I love walking and there are many parks next to where I live. However I am never able to fully enjoy it or indulge in any longer thinking activities as most of the time I'll be interrupted by either elderly people asking me "to go back where I came from" or random ID checks by undercover police. This happened a lot (5x times) over the last year when I decide to go and walk in a park, once even during an online call w…

A friend of mine who is white also was checked by the police a lot (in Germany), simply because he had a certain jacket that was apparently associated with drug dealers or trouble makers (checks can include anal probes for hidden drugs, apparently).

So maybe dressing for the occasion could work. Sorry for your ordeal. You'd think police would know you after the umpteenth check.

Re: On the link between great thinking and obsessive walking

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I don’t deny the link. I worked with a programmer/mathematician who would just start ambling about the office without any mission when deep in thought. I think that in his case the thinking actually drives the walking instead of vice versa. >Oppezzo designed an elegant experiment. A group of Stanford students were asked to list as many creative uses for common objects as they could. A Frisbee, for example, can be use…

There are other cases / studies that point to similar cognitive improvements through exercise.

There was a case study I read in the book linked below and it indicated that test scores improved dramatically when they had kids exercise before learning. It states that the improvements occurred regardless of physical ability as long as participants aimed to achieve their personal best during exercise.

I can't speak to the quality of the research but it is interesting and does not surprise me.

[1] https://www.amazon.com/Spark-Revolutionary-Science-Exercise-...

Re: On the link between great thinking and obsessive walking

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post #141

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Eastern Germany is very racist. I'm white and I repeatedly got "the looks" when I spoke Polish on a trip there. Not like Poland is better, but somehow people don't expect it in Germany.

I think it depends entirely on where you are in Germany, like everywhere you have more tolerant places and more intolerant places. Curiously the places with the least foreigners are the most xenophobic ones and vice versa.

> Curiously the places with the least foreigners are the most xenophobic ones and vice versa.

That's actually the standard. It's easy to be xenophobic when someone has very little exposure to other cultures. Once they get exposed over a long period of time, people realise that they are just people too.

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