Like in football, a great team full of A players without a good trainer goes nowhere.
Although a bunch of really talented players will have a lot of fun playing together. Only when we monetize their talent do we start worrying about "progress".
Developers Are the Most Valuable Resource When Creating Software
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#12Like in football, a great team full of A players without a good trainer goes nowhere.
Although a bunch of really talented players will have a lot of fun playing together. Only when we monetize their talent do we start worrying about "progress".
True, the sad reality of capitalist society is that fun doesn't pay bills.
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#13I would say it is safe to say, developers, are the most valuable resource period. At least as far as human capital is concerned, and that is going to keep increasing and increasing until AI takes over.
Really?
I'm a developer who has gone into management.
Most of the software that is churned out just keeps the money flowing.
Garbage collectors, nurses, utility workers, teachers, parents.
All seem infinitely more valuable to humanity then anything developers do, unless you're advancing medical or bio-science.
Admittedly, due to demand and the ever increasing globalisation of systems software is exploding, so developers are in demand.
Most valuable type of person (I despise the word resource applied to people) I guess depends on your definition of what is valuable?
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#14I would say it is safe to say, developers, are the most valuable resource period. At least as far as human capital is concerned, and that is going to keep increasing and increasing until AI takes over.
Really? I'm a developer who has gone into management. Most of the software that is churned out just keeps the money flowing. Garbage collectors, nurses, utility workers, teachers, parents. All seem infinitely more valuable to humanity then anything developers do, unless you're advancing medical or bio-science. Admittedly, due to demand and the ever increasing globalisation of systems software is exploding, so develop…
I completely agree that all the occupations you listed, are way more important, especially parents. I'm a little on the fence on teachers now, because I feel too many are teaching from an agenda playbook, rather than to make our little ones actually smarter. But, the point you made, is exactly the point. We as a society are trying to build something more, whether that is get to Mars, have autonomous cars, or even have social media that is able to completely control us. I agree, calling people resources, or talking strictly about butts in seats is what people that are attempting to be soulless do. But everyone that is "powerful" today needs developers way more than they care to admit. It is amazing to me how many people I know wish they could be developers, like have actually said those words to me. Mind you, these are people that want to be more successful, and thus need to "build" things at scale, and are thus reliant on developers. And having to pay someone 200K or 300K or 400K to do something they could do if they just had the time (or at least they think that) drives them mad.
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#15I would say it is safe to say, developers, are the most valuable resource period. At least as far as human capital is concerned, and that is going to keep increasing and increasing until AI takes over.
Really? I'm a developer who has gone into management. Most of the software that is churned out just keeps the money flowing. Garbage collectors, nurses, utility workers, teachers, parents. All seem infinitely more valuable to humanity then anything developers do, unless you're advancing medical or bio-science. Admittedly, due to demand and the ever increasing globalisation of systems software is exploding, so develop…
When I start to think about it lot of the less sexy work seems lot more beneficial for humanity than what the "tech" companies produce.
Not that there isn't some benefits, but compare most of social media, advertising and many platforms to automation, industry and so on. Global logistics is big thing too improving quality of life massively, even if consumption might be somewhat negative for planet.
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#16I want to be a manager so I can say „no“. I am tired of some career climbers science project. I home that being I might have less of this.
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#17I want to be a manager so I can say „no“. I am tired of some career climbers science project. I home that being I might have less of this.
I think of my own style of management being less about "saying no" and more about supporting the team and business to find ways to say "yes" that are both sustainable (no burn out or dissatisfaction from developers) and impactful (makes a valuable difference to our customers or business).
I think of management being able to influence the conversation in a direct way, and also committing to the company direction (even if I don't personally agree with it).
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Although a bunch of really talented players will have a lot of fun playing together. Only when we monetize their talent do we start worrying about "progress".
True, the sad reality of capitalist society is that fun doesn't pay bills.
I would like to think the two aren't mutually exclusive, however I do think that sports players (and actors/musicians) are turned into what are essentially money making vehicles (whether that be advertising in sports or royalties in entertainment). Those that are considered "A" game are those that earn the most money for other people.
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Really? I'm a developer who has gone into management. Most of the software that is churned out just keeps the money flowing. Garbage collectors, nurses, utility workers, teachers, parents. All seem infinitely more valuable to humanity then anything developers do, unless you're advancing medical or bio-science. Admittedly, due to demand and the ever increasing globalisation of systems software is exploding, so develop…
When I start to think about it lot of the less sexy work seems lot more beneficial for humanity than what the "tech" companies produce. Not that there isn't some benefits, but compare most of social media, advertising and many platforms to automation, industry and so on. Global logistics is big thing too improving quality of life massively, even if consumption might be somewhat negative for planet. Like
Yeah, I think there are too many industries that take more than they give, however they prey on human weaknesses. The global logistics thing is interesting as arguably globalisation is the leading cause of destruction to planet Earth.
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#20Earlier quoted context omitted.
Really? I'm a developer who has gone into management. Most of the software that is churned out just keeps the money flowing. Garbage collectors, nurses, utility workers, teachers, parents. All seem infinitely more valuable to humanity then anything developers do, unless you're advancing medical or bio-science. Admittedly, due to demand and the ever increasing globalisation of systems software is exploding, so develop…
I completely agree that all the occupations you listed, are way more important, especially parents. I'm a little on the fence on teachers now, because I feel too many are teaching from an agenda playbook, rather than to make our little ones actually smarter. But, the point you made, is exactly the point. We as a society are trying to build something more, whether that is get to Mars, have autonomous cars, or even hav…
I agree on the teacher point. There are some teachers that really care about unleashing genius, creativity and curiosity. There are some that just want the paycheck each month. And a scale in between. I question the "system" and whether it's measuring (or able to measure) the 'right' things? As most of the behaviour from teachers and education leadership is based around attainment. Likely that putting a bunch of people in a cohort and trying to help them grow into curious, motivated individuals can't be done on a large group basis.
Largely, I think economics drives most systems, and the behaviour within those systems. It requires people to think and act beyond those boundaries for humanity to move forward.
If there were no developers, or no software, or no Internet, I wonder what humanity would look like right now.